The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition

[TribalElder]

Appears the Chiefs and Chris Jones are at the beginning of a contract dispute



Speculation has been that the two sides are "far apart" on a deal

So Chiefs Planet.... how do we think this will play out (poll coming)

Will the Chiefs pay up and meet Chris Jones demands? If so, how much will it end up costing?

Will the Chiefs not be able to meet Chris Jones demands and end up trading him? If so, what kind of haul can we expect?

I've really loved watching Chris Jones wreck shit for the Chiefs, it always sucks when the business side of the NFL forces teams into tough decisions.

[Dunerdr]

Has SR messaged Brad veatch yet?

[BWillie]

Not sure why ppl are scared of a 33m tag when Aaron Donald is getting paid 32M for many years. Chiefs are in an ideal situation with Jones. You can have him play his contract out this year. Tag him next year, then let him walk at age 32 where he will begin to decline and when Kelce will be 36. Then we reload. Just tell him thats what you are going to do. Cant sit out fot 2 years and give up 50M, Chris. Chiefs should have all the leverage in the world. Dont be afraid to use it.

The franchise tag was agreed upon by the players union. Use it. Just the threat to use it should help you negotiate down a Chris Jones contract extension. Chiefs hold the cards unless they act like Dayton Moore.

[poolboy]

salary cap bro

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by poolboy

salary cap bro

They can always figure it out. Rearrange contracts. Just hire this guy.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

So you don't think they knew the # then? If so, that's.....not very well thought thru.

You do realize Reid has made it crystal clear they were shocked Jones didn't show up for camp right? What does that tell you?

It sure doesn't sound like his agent let them know where this was headed.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Lotta holes in argument 2.

1. KC does not appear to want to give Jones what he is asking primarily due to age. You think another team is going to give up premium picks for the right to give him that? I don't. Chicago might have the cap space, but that doesn't mean they want to blow it for the sake of blowing it.

2. Jones is an elite pass rusher at the DT spot. Not many of those in the league at his position. Pass rushers aren't cheap for a reason. You can't just plug and play and replace their production.

3. No one wants CEH and even the dumber GMs know that in all likelihood this is his final season in KC. Why give up anything for him? RBs are already being devalued, so what team does he move the needle for that would be willing to give up a developmental DT for?

Not saying give in to Jones' demands, just I think his value to the defense is more than some might think. Here's hoping the two sides come to a reasonable agreement.

Whether we sign Chris Jones or not, we all can agree that he's not gonna be worth a long term $30 million APY deal. That just doesn't happen very often. It's rare.

The question is how long is Chris gonna be Chris, bc history suggests he's nearing the end of his prime and about to enter the decline. A decline for Chris is still a good pass rushing DT, but that would not be worth such a massive cap hit.

It's gonna come down to structure more than anything which is why I hope if they get it done, they could do it now while he's still 29.

I don't think we should give him a contract that doesn't have an out after his age 31 season.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You do realize Reid has made it crystal clear they were shocked Jones didn't show up for camp right? What does that tell you?

It sure doesn't sound like his agent let them know where this was headed.

That’s different than not knowing what numbers he was thinking.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Whether we sign Chris Jones or not, we all can agree that he's not gonna be worth a long term $30 million APY deal. That just doesn't happen very often. It's rare.

The question is how long is Chris gonna be Chris, bc history suggests he's nearing the end of his prime and about to enter the decline. A decline for Chris is still a good pass rushing DT, but that would not be worth such a massive cap hit.

It's gonna come down to structure more than anything which is why I hope if they get it done, they could do it now while he's still 29.

I don't think we should give him a contract that doesn't have an out after his age 31 season.

Oh I agree that he's not worth $30 million a year at his age, but he still should have 2-4 years of elite, or at least very good play left in him. I think the structure is what will matter the most. Even at four years we could move on from him when he is 33.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Not sure why ppl are scared of a 33m tag when Aaron Donald is getting paid 32M for many years. Chiefs are in an ideal situation with Jones. You can have him play his contract out this year. Tag him next year, then let him walk at age 32 where he will begin to decline and when Kelce will be 36. Then we reload. Just tell him thats what you are going to do. Cant sit out fot 2 years and give up 50M, Chris. Chiefs should have all the leverage in the world. Dont be afraid to use it.

The franchise tag was agreed upon by the players union. Use it. Just the threat to use it should help you negotiate down a Chris Jones contract extension. Chiefs hold the cards unless they act like Dayton Moore.

The AD deal is shit and they are stuck with over 60 mil in cap hits for 2 more years on a 32 year that will be 34 getting that cap hit. Jones is 30 next July and not worth a 30 mil cap hit.

[Coogs]

Bears have the money and two 1st round picks next year. Theirs and the Panthers.

Send them Jones and our 1st for their two 1st, and a condition where the Bears get Jones and the lowest of the three 1st rounders (should be ours, but you never know), and we get the two highest.

Over the Cap says we would free up 21.25 million for this season. Sign a couple of guys off of the scrap heap for this year. Suh and Dunlap maybe.

[BossChief]

This is the last year before the cap skyrockets.

CJ is worth 27-29m per, as long as there are outs after the 3rd year of the deal.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by BossChief

This is the last year before the cap skyrockets.

CJ is worth 27-29m per, as long as there are outs after the 3rd year of the deal.

Agreed. Get him in ASAP.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Bears have the money and two 1st round picks next year. Theirs and the Panthers.

Send them Jones and our 1st for their two 1st, and a condition where the Bears get Jones and the lowest of the three 1st rounders (should be ours, but you never know), and we get the two highest.

Over the Cap says we would free up 21.25 million for this season. Sign a couple of guys off of the scrap heap for this year. Suh and Dunlap maybe.

Why would Chicago do this? Especially with Poles as their GM who learned from Veach?

[ChiefaRoo]

Listen boys. Chris Jones’ fate is to wreck Quarterbacks and Vaginas. He will also play football for KC.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Why would Chicago do this? Especially with Poles as their GM who learned from Veach?

Because they have a starting QB under the rookie wage.