Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 69

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Titty Meat · 09-22-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Army, Navy, Notre Dame, Nebraska..... sometimes once proud programs just go and die.

It is what it is.

Ranked in the top 10 = dead? Or we talking about your hair again?

Stewie · 09-22-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam

In line for what? UT has done nothing wrong.
Any school in the Big 12 has a right to start its own net work.

There's nothing wrong with your own network. KU has one. The problem is they want to expand to HS games. That's against NCAA rules.

Reerun_KC · 09-22-2011, 04:32 PM

OU Presser is nothing about leaving or going anywhere. Just having it to answer some questions and to put an end to some things.

Reerun_KC · 09-22-2011, 04:33 PM

Coach stoops had asked ou to stay right here for awhile. He wants to stay in the big 12.

Stewie · 09-22-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Jesus you're a reerun.

Syracuse made more money in football than basketball. I'll share the links with you if you can figure out that the link you posted says nothing about football.(Hint the chart posted in your link, shows revenue/profit/margin for all basketball teams).

Then post the link about professional baseball and football teams losing money.

LiveSteam · 09-22-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

There's nothing wrong with your own network. KU has one. The problem is they want to expand to HS games. That's against NCAA rules.

I agree that part wont fly in the Big 12. I do think Fla & a couple other SEC schools show high school games on they're net works. I might be wrong,but I dont think I am.

Mosbonian · 09-22-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

KU will be fine. The best scenario is to milk ESPN and FOX for the estimated $350 million payday as the Big XII.

You keep dreaming that will happen...

ChiefsCountry · 09-22-2011, 04:44 PM

Here is the latest numbers - Syracuse football made 19 million while men's hoops made 18.
http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstDeta...343a303020504d

Stewie · 09-22-2011, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian

You keep dreaming that will happen...

What's the alternative? Go to another league for chump change? TX and OU won't settle for that. There's huge money to made if the Big XII stays together and the money won't be split up with the bottom feeders of other conferences.

This is an ongoing process. I'd be really scared if I was a non-player in a conference (Big 10, SEC, PAC, ACC) that protects me. There's no protection now.

WV · 09-22-2011, 04:52 PM

This is getting ridiculous....who governs these conferences and the schools within. Shoudn't the NCAA be getting involved in all these schools hoping conferences? What do they want a couple super conferences and then everyone else??

Pants · 09-22-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan

This is getting ridiculous....who governs these conferences and the schools within. Shoudn't the NCAA be getting involved in all these schools hoping conferences? What do they want a couple super conferences and then everyone else??

Everyone wants TV money.

Stewie · 09-22-2011, 05:00 PM

And I must say that it's really sad that universities have lowered themselves to being football (or sports for that matter) first. There's a reason the Ivy League is no where to be found in these discussions.

Professor Wagstaff: And I say to you gentlemen that this college is a failure. The trouble is we're neglecting football for education.

**alnorth** · 09-22-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan

This is getting ridiculous....who governs these conferences and the schools within. Shoudn't the NCAA be getting involved in all these schools hoping conferences? What do they want a couple super conferences and then everyone else??

No one governs the conferences, aside from the courts, and possibly congress via the power of the purse if they ever wanted to. The NCAA was formed by the conferences, and the NCAA only has the power that the conferences choose to give to them.

One reason why you'll never see the death penalty handed down against a BCS school, aside from the spectacular damage it did to SMU, is that the school's conference would likely rebel, and the NCAA would be kicked to the curb.

The maximum the NCAA can probably do is that smoking crater they left in USC after their violations.

**Saulbadguy** · 09-22-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

And I must say that it's really sad that universities have lowered themselves to being football (or sports for that matter) first. There's a reason the Ivy League is no where to be found in these discussions.

Professor Wagstaff: And I say to you gentlemen that this college is a failure. The trouble is we're neglecting football for education.

What a stupid ****ing post.

ChiefsCountry · 09-22-2011, 05:18 PM

Well Beebe is offically gone
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/22...missioner.html

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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