2024 WR Class

[Couch-Potato]

Some interesting WRs in the upcoming class, who do you like?

1st - 2nd RD WR Targets:

Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.6
Emeka Egbuka, OH ST, 6-1, 205, 4.3
Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5
Troy Franklin, ORG, 6-3, 185, 4.41
Xavier Legette, SC, 6-1, 225, 4.29
Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.35
Xavier Worthy, TX, 6-1, 175, 4.22
Ja'Lynn Polk, WAS, 6-2, 205, 4.48
Johnny Wilson, FSU, 6-7, 235, 4.42
Branden Rice, USC, 6-3, 210, 4.38
Malachi Corley, WKU, 5-11, 200, 4.46
Jermain Burton, BAMA, 6-0, 195, 4.31

*This entire class is tall WTF?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Don't care about big receivers.

"Moves well for a big guy" means he's actually pretty mediocre for a normal sized WR. And I just don't think the trade-off is worthwhile.

He wouldn't even be on my board for the Chiefs. Some teams may have a use for him but I don't. We don't have Matt Cassel under center - 'hard to miss' doesn't move the needle for me when I have a guy that can put a ball in 5 gallon bucket from 30 yards out.

Give me separation and quickness in/out of his cuts. Wilson does neither of those things. He's a guy I have essentially zero interest in at all. If I thought he could learn to block more consistently I might have him as an intriguing TE convert on the 3rd day, but that's about it.

I heard thoughts like this when people were pushing Ruggs over Justin Jefferson.

[DJ's left nut]

Worthy and Legette, especially if they go in the 1st, are both guys who would fall in the Quentin Johnston bucket for me.

I was elated when the Chargers took that guy. "Good - burn draft capital on a dude who's not gonna get open, fight for the football or manage to catch it when it gets to him..."

Those are both guys who I'd be fine taking if they slide to us, but I'm not gonna overdraft either because of FOMO.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Kelvin Benjamin was slow. Hard to compare him. Johnny Wilson is a legit deep threat. He’s fast and can actually run routes. Johnnys listed at a 4.42 40. Here’s some info on Johnny. He’s a freak. He’s actually probably closer to Darren Waller. But I was unsure about his hands.

Elite athletic skills -- Johnny Wilson Made Bruce Feldman's 2023 'Freaks List' at number 28. He wrote: "At almost 6 feet 7, 239 pounds, he has 36-inch arms, 10 1/4 inch hands and a standing reach of 8-10. He also has a 35.5 inch vertical and a 10-5 broad jump. In games, he’s topped out at 21.23 MPH with a max acceleration of 5.26 m/s and has a max deceleration of -7.21 m/s."

Those numbers are ridiculous. He is not kelvin benjamin. Benjamin timed at a 4.6 and 17mph. Waller was a 4.46 at 22 mph. And 37” vertical. Waller is a better comp, almost the same height and weight also. Waller was drafted in the 6th round…

It's the drops. I broadly agree with DJ's take but with Wilson it's the drops. He honestly probably moves better than Coleman, but he just...can't catch. If you're that big and can't reel them in you might as well be 8 feet with 4.2 40 for all it matters.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Worthy and Legette, especially if they go in the 1st, are both guys who would fall in the Quentin Johnston bucket for me.

I was elated when the Chargers took that guy. "Good - burn draft capital on a dude who's not gonna get open, fight for the football or manage to catch it when it gets to him..."

Those are both guys who I'd be fine taking if they slide to us, but I'm not gonna overdraft either because of FOMO.

On the other hand his absolute s***ness helps them get Nabers this year. Nothing is going to piss me off more seeing them get him or Browers because they just decided to give up halfway through the season. Should be some sort of draft forfeit for how badly they checked out.

[wachashi]

Ladd McConkey is Dane Brugler's WR 6 at 34 overall. Questionable fit for the Chiefs as we don't typically see these traditional slot guys, but he gets open and has some ability after the catch to make guys miss.

5' 11" 187 lbs.

"A tough player to cover one-on-one, McConkey tempos his long speed to get on the toes of cornerbacks, then snaps the break point with his short-area quickness. Although his lack of length hurts his catch radius, he plays with competitive ball skills and doesn’t force the quarterback to be perfect with placement.

Because of injuries, McConkey played in only nine games (one start) in 2023, but he made a noticeable impact when he was on the field."

Typing in my notes from CB class and keep seeing this on my paper- struggled vs McConkey

— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) February 21, 2024

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by wachashi

Ladd McConkey is Dane Brugler's WR 6 at 34 overall. Questionable fit for the Chiefs as we don't typically see these traditional slot guys, but he gets open and has some ability after the catch to make guys miss.

5' 11" 187 lbs.

"A tough player to cover one-on-one, McConkey tempos his long speed to get on the toes of cornerbacks, then snaps the break point with his short-area quickness. Although his lack of length hurts his catch radius, he plays with competitive ball skills and doesn’t force the quarterback to be perfect with placement.

Because of injuries, McConkey played in only nine games (one start) in 2023, but he made a noticeable impact when he was on the field."

Typing in my notes from CB class and keep seeing this on my paper- struggled vs McConkey

— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) February 21, 2024

Not interested in using a high draft pick on a small slot WR.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Is that based on talent or on character concerns, though?

Burton is apparently a shit-disturbing troll who likes to taunt opponents after the game.

He clocked a female Tennessee fan who ran on the field after they beat the Tide last year, and he taunted the Georgia student section after Alabama beat them in the SEC championship game, among other things.

Looks like he's maybe an immature hothead who likes to let opponents know when he cooks them. Maybe even the type of guy who would make a certain hand motion if a ref blew a call, or that would keep antagonizing Kyle Van Noy until he popped and got a personal foul.

I really like the idea of taking a Round 3 or 4 stab on Burton as a double-up at WR if he's there. I think it's an opportunity to take a calculated risk to get a player who far outplays his draft slot.

He's quick, he runs good routes, he tracks the ball well down the field, he can make contested catches, and he's got good deep speed. I see a lot of Stafon Diggs in him.

Overblown on Burton. We all make mistakes. But you have to look at the whole picture rather than what the SEC drama queens want to portray. On the Tennessee fan, what you don't see is her putting her phone in his face and taunting him as he was leaving the field. Ask yourself this, if she was completely innocent in her actions, why did she delete the video of her taunting him as he left the field on her social media account? Burton faced no discipline that I remember. He has stated publicly that he made a mistake.

It's probably not good policy for a fan to storm the field and go up to any player on the losing team and taunt them as they leave the field.

He's talk shit. So what. Not uncommon for football players. He just needs to learn to not turn his head in the direction of the player he is talking shit to.
Talking shit to fans? Who cares. I've seen Chiefs players talk shit to many opposing fans.

I'm doubtful that Burton makes it to the end of round 3 if he tests as he should. IMO he will be looked at as a traits over production kind of guy. Because of that, I can easily see him moving up the board into the middle to late 2nd in a similar manner the way Jonathan Mingo moved up last year with his traits over production. His deep speed is elite. His hands are big. Tracks the ball just as well as any WR this year. 56% contested catch rate. 0 drops. He checks a lot of the boxes that we will be missing in the room next year.

[wachashi]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Not interested in using a high draft pick on a small slot WR.

Zay Flowers is 5' 9" 183 lbs

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by wachashi

Zay Flowers is 5' 9" 183 lbs

Yes.


So?

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by wachashi

Ladd McConkey is Dane Brugler's WR 6 at 34 overall. Questionable fit for the Chiefs as we don't typically see these traditional slot guys, but he gets open and has some ability after the catch to make guys miss.

5' 11" 187 lbs.

"A tough player to cover one-on-one, McConkey tempos his long speed to get on the toes of cornerbacks, then snaps the break point with his short-area quickness. Although his lack of length hurts his catch radius, he plays with competitive ball skills and doesn’t force the quarterback to be perfect with placement.

Because of injuries, McConkey played in only nine games (one start) in 2023, but he made a noticeable impact when he was on the field."

Typing in my notes from CB class and keep seeing this on my paper- struggled vs McConkey

— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) February 21, 2024

No thank you, send him to the Pats.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba

Overblown on Burton. We all make mistakes. But you have to look at the whole picture rather than what the SEC drama queens want to portray. On the Tennessee fan, what you don't see is her putting her phone in his face and taunting him as he was leaving the field. Ask yourself this, if she was completely innocent in her actions, why did she delete the video of her taunting him as he left the field on her social media account? Burton faced no discipline that I remember. He has stated publicly that he made a mistake.

It's probably not good policy for a fan to storm the field and go up to any player on the losing team and taunt them as they leave the field.

He's talk shit. So what. Not uncommon for football players. He just needs to learn to not turn his head in the direction of the player he is talking shit to.
Talking shit to fans? Who cares. I've seen Chiefs players talk shit to many opposing fans.

I'm doubtful that Burton makes it to the end of round 3 if he tests as he should. IMO he will be looked at as a traits over production kind of guy. Because of that, I can easily see him moving up the board into the middle to late 2nd in a similar manner the way Jonathan Mingo moved up last year with his traits over production. His deep speed is elite. His hands are big. Tracks the ball just as well as any WR this year. 56% contested catch rate. 0 drops. He checks a lot of the boxes that we will be missing in the room next year.

I agree.

I like the fire.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba

Overblown on Burton. We all make mistakes. But you have to look at the whole picture rather than what the SEC drama queens want to portray. On the Tennessee fan, what you don't see is her putting her phone in his face and taunting him as he was leaving the field. Ask yourself this, if she was completely innocent in her actions, why did she delete the video of her taunting him as he left the field on her social media account? Burton faced no discipline that I remember. He has stated publicly that he made a mistake.

It's probably not good policy for a fan to storm the field and go up to any player on the losing team and taunt them as they leave the field.

He's talk shit. So what. Not uncommon for football players. He just needs to learn to not turn his head in the direction of the player he is talking shit to.
Talking shit to fans? Who cares. I've seen Chiefs players talk shit to many opposing fans.

I'm doubtful that Burton makes it to the end of round 3 if he tests as he should. IMO he will be looked at as a traits over production kind of guy. Because of that, I can easily see him moving up the board into the middle to late 2nd in a similar manner the way Jonathan Mingo moved up last year with his traits over production. His deep speed is elite. His hands are big. Tracks the ball just as well as any WR this year. 56% contested catch rate. 0 drops. He checks a lot of the boxes that we will be missing in the room next year.

Yeah, I agree the character concerns seem like an exaggerated non-issue.

But hey, if they make him slip to a range where KC can add him at a nice value, I’m cool with them.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Yeah, I agree the character concerns seem like an exaggerated non-issue.

But hey, if they make him slip to a range where KC can add him at a nice value, I’m cool with them.

Didn't K. Toney have an incident in college where he showed up to a baseball diamond with an AR to scare off some dudes? Also, I recall T. Hill's having actual character concerns. Those two had some serious red flags, getting chippy with the other team is just being competitive.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by wachashi

Ladd McConkey is Dane Brugler's WR 6 at 34 overall. Questionable fit for the Chiefs as we don't typically see these traditional slot guys, but he gets open and has some ability after the catch to make guys miss.

5' 11" 187 lbs.

"A tough player to cover one-on-one, McConkey tempos his long speed to get on the toes of cornerbacks, then snaps the break point with his short-area quickness. Although his lack of length hurts his catch radius, he plays with competitive ball skills and doesn’t force the quarterback to be perfect with placement.

Because of injuries, McConkey played in only nine games (one start) in 2023, but he made a noticeable impact when he was on the field."

Typing in my notes from CB class and keep seeing this on my paper- struggled vs McConkey

— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) February 21, 2024

He's white. He's got very average stats. He's got a really shitty name. I wouldn't take him in the 4th round.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Womble

He's white. He's got very average stats. He's got a really shitty name. I wouldn't take him in the 4th round.

I'm not big on him either but I will say that they said the same shit about Puka Nacua. Running great routes with good hands can be a strong recipe for success in the NFL.

I'm alot higher on Pearsall as a similar type though, I just think there is more speed and better size there.