Let's talk about the Bills - AFC Championship Edition

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[In58men]

Everyone still feeling confident?

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

Teach a fish how to flop and it will have a long life

So Allen goes back into the pocket and repeats his mantra. "I wish I was a fish."

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by In58men

Everyone still feeling confident?

Absolutely.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by In58men

Everyone still feeling confident?

I feel more confident after watching the first matchup again, with fresh eyes.

The Bills played really, really well in that game. The Chiefs really ... did not.

And the things the Bills were able to be successful with agianst the Chiefs' offense - namely, lining up and running more man and being more aggressive in general - are not things that can be as successful this time around.

One, because the Chiefs' personnel is better suited for attacking man coverage now. Brown is a major difference maker there.

Two, because the Bills are unlikely to be as healthy on the back half of their defense. Taron Johnson is dinged. Binford is in the protocol - does he play? Rapp has a serious hip injury that will be painful and tough to play through (and is a guy who is maxing out his physical ability all the time, which makes it tougher to be effective when playing through pain and injury.

Three, because the healthy addition of Jaylen Watson to the Chiefs' secondary is the biggest swing in this game (and Spencer Brown and Marquise Brown are both major upgrades for these teams).

[htismaqe]

The back end of their defense is really beat up. Worthy was open all day against them last time when they were relatively healthy.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Rapp is probably not going to play. Benford and Johnson will play I'm sure but they're both banged up.

Benford 100% shouldn't play. What are the chances they have 2 guys clear concussion protocol in less than a week 2 weeks in a row?

That would be fishy as ****.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Benford 100% shouldn't play. What are the chances they have 2 guys clear concussion protocol in less than a week 2 weeks in a row?

That would be fishy as ****.

The Bills have been known to try and skirt the rules when it comes to injuries, especially concussions.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The back end of their defense is really beat up. Worthy was open all day against them last time when they were relatively healthy.

I think if Mahomes and Worthy/Brown can hit on their opportunities, the Chiefs will win this one with a two-score lead at the end. But that's a big if.

I have no doubt though that those two are gonna be running wide open at times.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The Bills have been known to try and skirt the rules when it comes to injuries, especially concussions.

Yup, if Benford plays, there should be an investigation. That would highly irregular to have it happen twice in two weeks, conveniently in the playoffs.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I know you're comparing Worthy and Coleman because of stats, but Coleman hasn't even been in the same league as Worthy as a rookie. He's absolutely nothing to be afraid of. Stop box score scouting for once.

I’ve watched him and he looks good.

They’re totally different players with different roles in their offense. The comparison isn’t apples to apples but it doesn’t need to be.

Either way, I’m not going to sit here while you argue that a rookie WR who averaged 19 YPR isn’t in the same league as X Man. Coleman had basically the same number of receptions on FORTY fewer targets. He’s been impressive.

Originally Posted by fadeaway

We also get back Omenihu.

They also may be without a few defensive players, although i imagine they all make miraculous recoveries

Oh, did we not have Charlie O back at that point? ****ing nice.

It’s hard to remember that far back with all of these moving pieces.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I’ve watched him and he looks good.

They’re totally different players with different roles in their offense. The comparison isn’t apples to apples but it doesn’t need to be.

Either way, I’m not going to sit here while you argue that a rookie WR who averaged 19 YPR isn’t in the same league as X Man. Coleman had basically the same number of receptions on FORTY fewer targets. He’s been impressive.



Oh, did we not have Charlie O back at that point? ****ing nice.

It’s hard to remember that far back with all of these moving pieces.

So like I said, you're box score scouting.

Xavier Worthy is legitimately our WR1. He should have 1,000+ yards and 10 TDs if it weren't for Pat's struggles.

Yes, Coleman isn't even in the same league as Worthy today. Most of his production has come from broken plays and is more due to Allen playing at an extremely high level this year. In terms of production, Coleman overachieved based on his actual tape. Worthy massively underachieved (though mostly not his fault).

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I’ve watched him and he looks good.

They’re totally different players with different roles in their offense. The comparison isn’t apples to apples but it doesn’t need to be.

Either way, I’m not going to sit here while you argue that a rookie WR who averaged 19 YPR isn’t in the same league as X Man. Coleman had basically the same number of receptions on FORTY fewer targets. He’s been impressive.

He fits what Buffalo has been doing this year.

Allen standing back there and waiting for the coverage to break down gives Coleman plenty of time to eventually come open. And if it doesn't happen, Allen has the size/speed to buy enough time and toss a YOLO ball for Coleman to fight for.

If a team can get after Allen a bit, it'll neutralize Coleman completely. But thus far, teams haven't.

Coleman would've been a complete non-factor here, IMO, but that doesn't mean he's been a disaster for Buffalo. He's been pretty productive in this bizarre sort of haphazard caveman passing game they've pieced together this year.

He and Shakir will likely complement each other similarly to Rice/Worthy going forward.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

So like I said, you're box score scouting...

You're dumb and can’t read.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I’ve watched him and he looks good.

Eye test doesn’t work in debates, though. You say he hasn’t been in X’s league, I say he has. Now what?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Can you imagine Kaiir Elam trying to run with our WRs?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

You're dumb and can’t read.



Eye test doesn’t work in debates, though. You say he hasn’t been in X’s league, I say he has. Now what?

I can read just fine. I don't beleive you.

Or maybe I'm giving you too much credit.

I don't know.

But you're the only ****ing reerun I know that could possibly watch both and not see a clear and significant difference.