New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[Stewie]

Originally Posted by Buck

Okay, so I have a couple questions and I'm not digging through 1000 posts.

1. Is Mizzou going to the SEC or staying?

2. How many teams does the Big 12 want to be at at the end of this?

3. Which teams are most likely to be invited if they decide to stay together and expand?

In my opinion, the current members stay in the Big XII. The next Big XII TV contract is estimated to be $350 million (assuming 10 teams) which buries the new PAC-12 contract of $225 million that is spread over 12 teams.

Ten teams is about right, or you start adding teams that don't add anything to the conference.

I can see TCU or BYU being added. Beyond that you have to travel a long way for a decent addition.

[Saul Good]

Pitt and Syracuse bolt from the Big East, the greatest basketball conference in history, with UCONN hot on their tails, and Wickedson still thinks that basketball drives the bus.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Pitt and Syracuse bolt from the Big East, the greatest basketball conference in history, with UCONN hot on their tails, and Wickedson still thinks that basketball drives the bus.

Never said that.

Just find it strange that the programs that end of moving aren't necessarily "football" schools. Many factors play into schools leaving conferences.

To say basketball doesn't matter is just naive.

[Stewie]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Pitt and Syracuse bolt from the Big East, the greatest basketball conference in history, with UCONN hot on their tails, and Wickedson still thinks that basketball drives the bus.

Since you know it all, why don't you call Soren Petro's show tomorrow and debate him about Syracuse and Pitt being admitted as football powers. That's a ****ing joke and he'll tell you that. And then tell us about UCONN and Rutgers, too.

[Bambi]

In 2010 the Syracuse Basketball program earned the school $10 million more than their football program.

'just sayin

http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/18/news...fits/index.htm

[Reerun_KC]

OU has a press conference at 6:30. Should be some good info coming out of Norman.

[LiveSteam]

BB has resigned,stepped down & fired

[Stewie]

I'm hoping the rest of the teams in the Big XII have told Texas to get in line.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Stewie

This is spot on.

Everyone knows Texas has more money than God, that's not the point. They're sharing Tier 1 and Tier 2 revenues and they get the money from the LHN. That was all fine. Then Texas tried to expand the LHN to include HS games and aTm blew a gasket and cried all the way to the SEC. It's against NCAA rules for LHN to show HS games. It won't happen.

So, let's get all pissy and go to another conference where we'll get less money per school because we are all righteous and aren't about the money.

Kill me with a butter knife.

So let's get all righteous and pissy because the school we root for doesn't have a place to land and we'd be screwed if the Big 12 disbands.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by Buck

Okay, so I have a couple questions and I'm not digging through 1000 posts.

1. Is Mizzou going to the SEC or staying?

2. How many teams does the Big 12 want to be at at the end of this?

3. Which teams are most likely to be invited if they decide to stay together and expand?

Mizzou ain't going anywhere. 12, but only 10 next year, likely 12 the following year. BYU, WVU, Louisville.

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by Stewie

I'm hoping the rest of the teams in the Big XII have told Texas to get in line.

In line for what? UT has done nothing wrong.
Any school in the Big 12 has a right to start its own net work.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

But does MU really want to be Ole Miss or Miss St in the SEC? Or actually have a chance to rise up here and there in the Big 12 to get to the BCS?

For me...we would go in being better than those 2. Yes we would probably get our a$$ kicked by the elite teams in the SEC, but it's my belief that the greater exposure we would get by playing in the SEC would land us some players we miss now.

And we wouldn't lose Texas if A&M is there too, which is a plus.

We'll never have the chance to "rise up" in the Big 12 in my opinion.

[Stewie]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

So let's get all righteous and pissy because the school we root for doesn't have a place to land and we'd be screwed if the Big 12 disbands.

KU will be fine. The best scenario is to milk ESPN and FOX for the estimated $350 million payday as the Big XII.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

In 2010 the Syracuse Basketball program earned the school $10 million more than their football program.

'just sayin

http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/18/news...fits/index.htm

Jesus you're a reerun.

Syracuse made more money in football than basketball. I'll share the links with you if you can figure out that the link you posted says nothing about football.(Hint the chart posted in your link, shows revenue/profit/margin for all basketball teams).

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by kstater

Jesus you're a reerun.

Syracuse made more money in football than basketball. I'll share the links with you if you can figure out that the link you posted says nothing about football.