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Old 01-01-2024, 11:36 AM  
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*****Official 2024 Royals Season Repository Thread*****




Year Two of the Matt Quatraro tenure. Time to take a step up this year. Active in free agency and trades this offseason. A new look pitching rotation and bullpen. Will the young players take the leap up offensively? Bobby Witt extension? New stadium? Will Vinny recover from injury? Salvy taking aim at the Royals record book? Will Cole Ragans turn into the best Royals starting pitcher since Greinke 1.0?

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Seth Lugo, SP
Michael Wacha, SP
Kyle Wright, SP
Hunter Renfroe, OF/DH
Will Smith, RP
Chris Stratton, RP
Nick Anderson, RP
Adam Frazier, 2B
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Old 05-27-2024, 07:45 PM   #1006
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Old 05-28-2024, 01:25 PM   #1010
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Catcher is the hardest position to statisicially quantify the value of a player's contributions.

The stat nerds say the same thing about Yadier Molina even though there's mountains of praise around baseball for his defensive impact. Anybody that followed baseball knows the Cardinals pitching staff had an obvious drop off in performance when prime years Molina was injured.

Even if you read the works of Bill James or listen to Brian Kenny, they make it clear that WAR isn't be all, end all of evaluation. You have to consider all information at hand. Simplifying it to WAR is lazy and not doing the homework.
Fangraphs also incorporated its own grading of framing and it absolutely hammered Perez's defensive value. I think their model overrates framing value, if for no other reason than it doesn't include metrics for other C defensive values.

I also think their methodology in grading framing runs saved is off somehow. They rate Perez below Sal Fasano in defensive value for their careers, which is as ludicrous as it gets and reminds one of what's been said about lies, damn lies, and statistics...
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Old 05-28-2024, 01:33 PM   #1011
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Fangraphs also incorporated its own grading of framing and it absolutely hammered Perez's defensive value. I think their model overrates framing value, if for no other reason than it doesn't include metrics for other C defensive values.

I also think their methodology in grading framing runs saved is off somehow. They rate Perez below Sal Fasano in defensive value for their careers, which is as ludicrous as it gets and reminds one of what's been said about lies, damn lies, and statistics...
How in the world can you grade framing?....too many variables and it prob changes ump to ump
If Sal was catching in New York, Boston or LA, he would be more celebrated for sure
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Old 05-28-2024, 01:54 PM   #1012
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How in the world can you grade framing?....too many variables and it prob changes ump to ump
If Sal was catching in New York, Boston or LA, he would be more celebrated for sure
It's rather subjective.

When they added framing to their C defensive calculations, it was enough to add19 WAR to Russell Martin's numbers while dropping 13 from Salvador Perez's number.

Just calculate that in strikes. How many strikes would one have to steal (at that point in Perez's career, it was only 8 seasons) to account for that many additional wins?

And how would you assign NEGATIVE value?
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Old 05-28-2024, 02:03 PM   #1013
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It's rather subjective.

When they added framing to their C defensive calculations, it was enough to add19 WAR to Russell Martin's numbers while dropping 13 from Salvador Perez's number.

Just calculate that in strikes. How many strikes would one have to steal (at that point in Perez's career, it was only 8 seasons) to account for that many additional wins?

And how would you assign NEGATIVE value?
Bill James has openly spoke out against the overvaluation of framing and using DRS as a stat to measure catchers.

He has specifically says it unfairly takes away from the value of someone like Salvador Perez, who is one of the better defensive catchers for his time.

Good enough for me.

Hopefully the HOF voters listen when the time comes.
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Bill James has openly spoke out against the overvaluation of framing and using DRS as a stat to measure catchers.

He has specifically says it unfairly takes away from the value of someone like Salvador Perez, who is one of the better defensive catchers for his time.

Good enough for me.

Hopefully the HOF voters listen when the time comes.
Yes. It is particularly funny that the guy that started that Twitter thread uses advanced stats to take a shot at Perez and then takes a shot at one of the 2-3 people most responsible for advanced stats existing.
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I don’t think Brent Rooker is the answer.

I’d prefer Conforto when he’s healthy (should be back in the next week).

Ryan McMahon would also be a nice fit if the Rockies put him on the market (can play 2B, 3B, would be a good fit if Massey is on the IL long-term).
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