2024 WR Class

[Couch-Potato]

Some interesting WRs in the upcoming class, who do you like?

1st - 2nd RD WR Targets:

Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.6
Emeka Egbuka, OH ST, 6-1, 205, 4.3
Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5
Troy Franklin, ORG, 6-3, 185, 4.41
Xavier Legette, SC, 6-1, 225, 4.29
Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.35
Xavier Worthy, TX, 6-1, 175, 4.22
Ja'Lynn Polk, WAS, 6-2, 205, 4.48
Johnny Wilson, FSU, 6-7, 235, 4.42
Branden Rice, USC, 6-3, 210, 4.38
Malachi Corley, WKU, 5-11, 200, 4.46
Jermain Burton, BAMA, 6-0, 195, 4.31

*This entire class is tall WTF?

[kcbubb]

The game just seems to big for skyy moore. Small school guys scare me a little.

[kcbubb]

What do y’all think about Johnny Wilson? He has big hands but drops were a problem? He’s an intriguing prospect to me with his size, speed and especially his movement. He’s pretty smooth for a guy that big. And long arms…. 35”. What a target. Hard to miss that guy. But if he can’t catch?

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I think, to a large degree, its character related. He's probably a 2nd round talent but no way a team is taking him that early. In a class this deep, there aren't many reasons for teams to take an early shot on what could be a head case. I think he goes in the 4th myself. Some think the 5th some think the 3rd but usually character on a day 2 talent slides them to early day 3.

That’s my take, too.

I’d be all over him in round 4/5. Maybe Kelce gives me false confidence on the Chiefs ability to mature him, but I love the idea of doubling up at WR in this draft and think he’d be a sexy second guy.

Even with Caleb Williams, Alabama spread the ball around. He was still the top dog as a receiver, though. And Milroe this year was kind of a deep shot only QB. I don’t know that he was maximized in that offense.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

What do y’all think about Johnny Wilson? He has big hands but drops were a problem? He’s an intriguing prospect to me with his size, speed and especially his movement. He’s pretty smooth for a guy that big. And long arms…. 35”. What a target. Hard to miss that guy. But if he can’t catch?

Don't care about big receivers.

"Moves well for a big guy" means he's actually pretty mediocre for a normal sized WR. And I just don't think the trade-off is worthwhile.

He wouldn't even be on my board for the Chiefs. Some teams may have a use for him but I don't. We don't have Matt Cassel under center - 'hard to miss' doesn't move the needle for me when I have a guy that can put a ball in 5 gallon bucket from 30 yards out.

Give me separation and quickness in/out of his cuts. Wilson does neither of those things. He's a guy I have essentially zero interest in at all. If I thought he could learn to block more consistently I might have him as an intriguing TE convert on the 3rd day, but that's about it.

[wachashi]

I like Tahj Washington's tape ouf of USC as a later-round receiver. PFF has him as the 149th overall prospect. He's small, but electric.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by wachashi

I like Tahj Washington's tape ouf of USC as a later-round receiver. PFF has him as the 149th overall prospect. He's small, but electric.

I like Luke McCaffrey and De'Corian Clark quite a bit as late round possibilities.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Don't care about big receivers.

"Moves well for a big guy" means he's actually pretty mediocre for a normal sized WR. And I just don't think the trade-off is worthwhile.

He wouldn't even be on my board for the Chiefs. Some teams may have a use for him but I don't. We don't have Matt Cassel under center - 'hard to miss' doesn't move the needle for me when I have a guy that can put a ball in 5 gallon bucket from 30 yards out.

Give me separation and quickness in/out of his cuts. Wilson does neither of those things. He's a guy I have essentially zero interest in at all. If I thought he could learn to block more consistently I might have him as an intriguing TE convert on the 3rd day, but that's about it.

Totally where I'm at. Middle of Day 3 as a TE conversion and that's about it. He isn't a WR in the league IMO. What was that guy's name for Carolina that was built just like him and mostly sucked ass but he was their only guy to force-feed for a year or two and put up okayish numbers then flamed hard out of the league?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I like Luke McCaffrey and De'Corian Clark quite a bit as late round possibilities.

Love McCaffrey.

If we go with somebody like Worthy or Franklin early, I love double dipping with McCaffrey.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Totally where I'm at. Middle of Day 3 as a TE conversion and that's about it. He isn't a WR in the league IMO. What was that guy's name for Carolina that was built just like him and mostly sucked ass but he was their only guy to force-feed for a year or two and put up okayish numbers then flamed hard out of the league?

Kelvin Benjamin. Before him, Mikhael Ricks.

We've seen this movie before. These 'move well for a big guy' players don't do anything at the next level.

"Moves like a small guy AND he's big" are unicorns and they go in the top 10. But if you're looking at a bigger receiver on the 2nd day or even the back of the 1st round, they're probably just not very good.

[DJ's left nut]

Here's the way I look at it - the difference between a talent and a prodigy.

A talent is a kid who's doing things better than all the other kids. A 10 year old that plays piano better than all the other 10 year olds is a heck of a talent. Probably someone that can get a scholarship or something and be a heck of a piano playing accountant someday.

A prodigy is a 10 year old that plays piano better than all the other ADULTS.

I need my big WRs to be prodigies. I need them to be big guys that move as well/better than the small guys. If they can't, they're just piano playing accountants.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Kelvin Benjamin. Before him, Mikhael Ricks.

We've seen this movie before. These 'move well for a big guy' players don't do anything at the next level.

"Moves like a small guy AND he's big" are unicorns and they go in the top 10. But if you're looking at a bigger receiver on the 2nd day or even the back of the 1st round, they're probably just not very good.

I thought he was talking about Laviska Shenault at first but he's just injury prone and he isn't a WR/TE tweener he's a WR/RB tweener, he's basically Cordarrelle Patterson Jr.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I thought he was talking about Laviska Shenault at first but he's just injury prone and he isn't a WR/TE tweener he's a WR/RB tweener, he's basically Cordarrelle Patterson Jr.

Or Treylon Burks Sr.

Everyone likes to throw around "Next Deebo" without acknowledging that most of those guys don't amount to much of anything. You'll get 5 Burks for every 1 Deebo.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Kelvin Benjamin. Before him, Mikhael Ricks.

We've seen this movie before. These 'move well for a big guy' players don't do anything at the next level.

"Moves like a small guy AND he's big" are unicorns and they go in the top 10. But if you're looking at a bigger receiver on the 2nd day or even the back of the 1st round, they're probably just not very good.

Kelvin Benjamin was slow. Hard to compare him. Johnny Wilson is a legit deep threat. He’s fast and can actually run routes. Johnnys listed at a 4.42 40. Here’s some info on Johnny. He’s a freak. He’s actually probably closer to Darren Waller. But I was unsure about his hands.

Elite athletic skills -- Johnny Wilson Made Bruce Feldman's 2023 'Freaks List' at number 28. He wrote: "At almost 6 feet 7, 239 pounds, he has 36-inch arms, 10 1/4 inch hands and a standing reach of 8-10. He also has a 35.5 inch vertical and a 10-5 broad jump. In games, he’s topped out at 21.23 MPH with a max acceleration of 5.26 m/s and has a max deceleration of -7.21 m/s."

Those numbers are ridiculous. He is not kelvin benjamin. Benjamin timed at a 4.6 and 17mph. Waller was a 4.46 at 22 mph. And 37” vertical. Waller is a better comp, almost the same height and weight also. Waller was drafted in the 6th round…

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Funny, unexpected thing about Burton I saw while looking into him...he was apparently child prodigy at golf. So if we pick him he could team up with Patrick in celebrity golf tournaments and win a bunch of money.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

The WRs I like best at this point who we have a legit chance at without trading up - so not Nabers, MHJ, Odunze, and probably Thomas - are Worthy and Legette. I'd be disappointed to see either of those guys get picked by a rival. Still a lot of time to evaluate and the combine will likely change my opinions on some of these guys, but I think Worthy will go somewhere from 33-40 and Legette will go 40-50. Still trying to warm up to Franklin and Coleman, maybe I'll see something at the combine that makes me like them more than I do now. But right now I'm on Worthy and Legette.

There are also some really intriguing guys who are likely to drop to rounds 3-5. Depending on how F/A shakes out, I wouldn't be surprised to see Veach grab two WRs in this draft.