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Tourist(s) missing in submarine while trying to reach the Titannic
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-coa...-sub-1.6446841
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Did they really have 5 people in this?? Or do they have a larger version?? |
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For those in that death trap, that was definitely the best outcome barring being rescued. I think the families are probably glad they didn't suffer a slow death waiting to freeze or suffocate at the bottom of the ocean |
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Happened so fast they didn't even know it happened, thats absolutely a better fate than all the other options
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This whole thread is interesting, but this final post is kind of a crazy comparison.
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And I get it, subs aren't for everybody, but for some of us it was a nice to be on a boat the is very informal.
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At one point James and a bunch of experts were joking about what James should do if he hears a crack in the sub, the old man who’s done a deep sea dive said you might as well keep going. Then James said, you’ll never hear the one that gets you.
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A lot gets said about hot-racking as if it's a "most folks hot-rack" deal, and that's not true. It's usually just the junior crew members, or non-quals. That said, the racks they'd bring aboard for extra racks when we had riders of any sort, usually in the torpedo room, were actually rather comfortable.
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Good article on the engineering & design of the Titan: https://www.compositesworld.com/arti...ep-deep-waters
I feel the whole truth isn't being told on the safety related stuff. From that article it's obvious this wasn't some backyard slap together job. They used a very reputable engineering firm to design the hull & it was built with a safety factor of 2.5x. The vessel was built in '18 and went on at least 2 deep dive missions then and in '19. During the 2nd mission in the bahamas there was reportedly cracking heard on the acoustic hull monitors: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mSq6ibKKXQ This was also just after the time when the former engineer that worked for Oceangate complained about it. But the media isn't reporting that all those concerns were addressed. That vessel was shelved for the deepest dive missions and was re-rated to 3000m: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OceanGate The hull was replaced by Electroimpact and Janicki Industries in 2020 or 2021, prior to the first trips to Titanic. Several trips were made to the titanic in both '21 & '22. I'm unaware of any safety related complaints that occurred in '21 or after related to the new hull. At 13,000 feet depth there is about 5500 lbs per square inch of pressure. For reference a great white shark bite is purported to be 4000 lbs per sq inch. The hull was built with a safety factor of 2.5x & if my understanding of the safety factor is correct that means it should have been able to handle 13,750 lbs of pressure per sq inch. So experienced engineers obviously made some grave errors in their calculations or something went horribly wrong. |
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I was super confused, but was then like oh, so about 33% more than a white shark bite, makes total sense now.
*imagines an even larger white shark biting the sub*
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They built the hull with carbon fiber. They had one gasket. They had carbon fiber touching metal. They sealed the hull with half inch bolts. Anything else is unimportant. |
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From people who actually know what they're talking about, it seems like the most likely failure points were either the porthole or the carbon fiber hull, both of which were super strong but that hadn't been thoroughly tested as would have been ideal. Neither of those are inherently bad decisions either, but they thought that they were strong enough to hold up and, apparently, they weren't. (There are other potential failure points, but those are the ones I've heard actual engineers discussing in detail.) As some have said in this thread, when you push the limits of what's possible, sometimes you get burned. Or in this case, squished. |
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But at the end of the day, it's a ****ing composite. And when i worked with it, it was really no different than working with Fiberglass. At least in automotive application. So in my mind, it's always been comparable to fiberglass. And idc that it was 5" thick. The concept in general just does not sound right. So the concept of putting that much pressure on it baffles me the more i think about it. And i've always been taught that quality is in the details. You can tell a lot about a build by the quality of detail. It's what separates a show winner vs just another RestoMod. So when the details are kinda half-ass'd, it lends one to believe there's going to be serious underlying issues that you don't see.
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