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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 07-19-2022, 06:52 AM   #10021
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After listening to SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey today I believe the new playoff format is probably rolled out in 2024/25 when the new tv contracts are renegotiated.

I think there will be 4 major conferences with an 12 team playoff. The SEC/B1G champs & runner ups getting byes with 8 at large teams filling out the field.

SEC sticks with 16, B1G sticks with 16.

The remaining PAC 10 members invite BYU, Texas Tech, Baylor & Okie State to join. There is a history there with 3 of those teams flirting with the PAC. This is KU & KSU’s best bet for a conference if offered.

ACC decides to expand to 20, landing UCF, Cincinnati, WVU, and Notre Dame.

That would essentially leave the Big 12 as KU, KSU, Houston, TCU & Iowa State.

KU has been rumored to have reached out to the ACC, B1G, and SEC but they are still on the sidelines of realignment.

Unfortunately, besides a basketball program with a very shady recent history, they don’t have anything to sell besides their AAU membership. KSU is probably screwed.

I believe it was Andy Maples who suggested KU join the Big East except for football and become an independent in football.

Scary times in the state of Kansas.

I think the whole KU/KSU narrative is a testament to how investment in infrastructure is more important than actually success on the court/field.


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I don't know. KU seems to be doing ok.


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Old 07-19-2022, 07:52 AM   #10022
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I don't know. KU seems to be doing ok.


You aren't supposed to enjoy that.
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Old 07-19-2022, 07:55 AM   #10023
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You aren't supposed to enjoy that.
You’re right. It’s better to celebrate the conference than individual accolades.
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Old 07-19-2022, 07:55 AM   #10024
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You aren't supposed to enjoy that.
Sorry, I keep forgetting how dumb winning national titles is.
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Old 07-19-2022, 08:50 AM   #10025
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You’re right. It’s better to celebrate the conference than individual accolades.
AFC West!

I always take pride when a team from the West wins.

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Old 07-19-2022, 08:52 AM   #10026
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PAC messed up declining to merge with the Big12 last year. Now it’s the PAC who wants to merge and the Big12 said “nope, we’ll just take a few of your schools instead”
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Old 07-19-2022, 09:14 AM   #10027
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Old 07-19-2022, 09:22 AM   #10028
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Notre Dame is seeking 75 million annually from NBC to stay independent. Think that ultimately ends up with them going to the contingent that prefers they stay independent no matter what and saying it just doesn't make sense not to join the BIG. That's assuming, of course, NBC balks at that number.
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Old 07-19-2022, 09:45 AM   #10029
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Unfortunately, besides a basketball program with a very shady recent history, they don’t have anything to sell besides their AAU membership. KSU is probably screwed.

Lol you're a moron
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Old 07-19-2022, 09:57 AM   #10030
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More eyeballs on KU football last year than on Mizzou.

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Old 07-19-2022, 10:43 AM   #10031
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Old 07-19-2022, 01:33 PM   #10032
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Army was 16 spots higher than the Tigers.

And they weren't have reached spot #60 without our bowl game matchup. You are welcome, Missouri.
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Old 07-19-2022, 02:46 PM   #10033
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PAC messed up declining to merge with the Big12 last year. Now it’s the PAC who wants to merge and the Big12 said “nope, we’ll just take a few of your schools instead”
And the reason they didn’t merge with us last year is because USC/UCLA knew they wanted out.
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Old 07-19-2022, 03:47 PM   #10035
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Why does Kansas only have 4 titles then?
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