Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 661

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

FloridaMan88 · 07-01-2022, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Man, that just seems like a really dumb fit for them.

UCLA adds nothing and USC is going to suffer a lot with other Big 10 programs having more stake in their area. They really needed a weak PAC to continue showing some form of relevance.

It was a package deal as the Big 10 needed to take UCLA to get USC.

And the benefits of joining the Big 10 for USC… access to what will likely be the richest TV contract in college sports history and part of what will be one of the two new super power conferences (Big 10 and SEC) will outweigh any added recruiting competition in SoCal.

FD · 07-01-2022, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

UCLA brings in Jack shit, mostly. The move would have made more sense if USC was being paired with the Ducks or Huskies. To really keep the bar moving forward now they need to probably go through and remove some waste in that conference.

At this point the best move forward for the PAC and BIG 12 is to merge into the BIGPAC. The overall team count and variety of programs would probably keep them in the game and in front of the ACC.

UCLA and USC are a package deal, and UCLA has a massive fanbase. UCLA is also the #1 public university according to US News so it adds to the academic prestige.

KChiefs1 · 07-01-2022, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It was a package deal as the Big 10 needed to take UCLA to get USC.

And the benefits of joining the Big 10 for USC… access to what will likely be the richest TV contract in college sports history and part of what will be one of the two new super power conferences (Big 10 and SEC) will outweigh any added recruiting competition in SoCal.

Yeah…if your school isn’t in the Big 10(NFC) or the SEC(AFC) you are screwed.

Man I would hate to be a fan of one of those schools.

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Pants · 07-01-2022, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Yeah…if your school isn’t in the Big 10(NFC) or the SEC(AFC) you are screwed.

Man I would hate to be a fan of one of those schools.

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Ya, but probably still not as bad as being a fan of a completely uncompetitive and irrelevant school, though.

Prison Bitch · 07-01-2022, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Yeah…if your school isn’t in the Big 10(NFC) or the SEC(AFC) you are screwed.

Man I would hate to be a fan of one of those schools.

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Mizzouche might be getting the boot:

Addition and subtraction?

Remember the Big 12 almost going away last year? That was heartless, yes. Now, consider a similar scenario if, say, the SEC wanted to make room for the likes of Clemson or Miami

Would it simply eject a couple of underperforming schools? Would the Big Ten consider doing the same if it had more prominent replacements lined up?

One conference official reminded me that schools commit to a conference, not the other way around.

So, out with Vanderbilt and Missouri, in with Clemson and Miami? Out with Indiana and Purdue, in with Oregon and Washington?

The Big East booted Temple in 2001 for underperformance. Kansas State was on the verge of dropping football -- if the Big Eight didn't drop it first -- before Bill Snyder arrived in 1989.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...g-started/amp/

Pablo · 07-01-2022, 10:42 AM

mu is the Kansas state of the sec. Only not as good at football. So maybe the Iowa state

kcclone · 07-01-2022, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Mizzouche might be getting the boot:

Addition and subtraction?

Remember the Big 12 almost going away last year? That was heartless, yes. Now, consider a similar scenario if, say, the SEC wanted to make room for the likes of Clemson or Miami

Would it simply eject a couple of underperforming schools? Would the Big Ten consider doing the same if it had more prominent replacements lined up?

One conference official reminded me that schools commit to a conference, not the other way around.

So, out with Vanderbilt and Missouri, in with Clemson and Miami? Out with Indiana and Purdue, in with Oregon and Washington?

The Big East booted Temple in 2001 for underperformance. Kansas State was on the verge of dropping football -- if the Big Eight didn't drop it first -- before Bill Snyder arrived in 1989.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...g-started/amp/

Missouri brings way more than Miss St and South Carolina (Vandy too clearly).

They would never have let them in if they didn’t see the value in adding the state of Missouri to the SEC footprint.

displacedinMN · 07-01-2022, 10:43 AM

TV market tweet

@J810Anderson why would Pac 12 teams leave? Pac 12 still has several Major TV Markets: Seattle, San Fran, Phoenix, Denver etc, Pac 12 would take from weaker Big 12. SEC will never kick out MIzzou, it delivers two growth, Top SEC TV Markets KC/STL. @Jedro24 @BeardsMcFly @CoryWHB pic.twitter.com/tEIL5dCXzm
— ⚡Allon.eth (@Strive4GreatACH) July 1, 2022

Sassy Squatch · 07-01-2022, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kcclone

Missouri brings way more than Miss St and South Carolina (Vandy too clearly).

They would never have let them in if they didn’t see the value in adding the state of Missouri to the SEC footprint.

Yeah, I don't see them kicking Mizzou out. Probably at least a little dissatisfied with how the athletics have stagnated, though. Hopefully Drinkwitz and Gates can turn this shit around.

lawrenceRaider · 07-01-2022, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kcclone

Missouri brings way more than Miss St and South Carolina (Vandy too clearly).

They would never have let them in if they didn’t see the value in adding the state of Missouri to the SEC footprint.

What does Mizzou bring exactly? Losing basketball and football programs?

Kiimo · 07-01-2022, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

What does Mizzou bring exactly? Losing basketball and football programs?

Hilarious, mind-boggling losses for the purpose of schadenfreude

lawrenceRaider · 07-01-2022, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

mu is the Kansas state of the sec. Only not as good at football. So maybe the Iowa state

Iowa State has been pretty good at football recently. Better than Mizzou or KSU.

Pablo · 07-01-2022, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

What does Mizzou bring exactly? Losing basketball and football programs?

Champ titles

lawrenceRaider · 07-01-2022, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

Titles

Ah, practice games.

kcclone · 07-01-2022, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

What does Mizzou bring exactly? Losing basketball and football programs?

$$$

It’s not necessarily who is winning right now that counts. It’s TV ratings and ceilings that the B1G and SEC are looking at in adding.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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