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Old 04-24-2025, 09:40 PM  
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Old Yesterday, 05:01 PM   #976
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The interviews from Veach and Reid, along with everything I've read sure lead me to believe that THEY aren't worried about the knee.

I don't think Veach and Reid are stupid, so I'm going to assume they know things I don't.

so I'm not going to worry about it.

I'm assuming he's ready for camp, just like Reid says.
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What does any of this have to do with Simmons being an all pro or homeless in 2 years?

Honestly curious...
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Instant draft reactions/grades always crack me up. Look at the draft from 3, 4, 5 years ago and the opinions at the time it happened. It’s even more speculation when major injuries are a factor
It's even better when the issue is entirely about medicals where there is insufficient evidence to really say anything with certainty beyond that it's a risk factor, but instead people are using it to make precise claims about recovery odds that medical professionals would not do.


The data isn't very good and we don't know how high the risk actually is, but that's a boring narrative.
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The interviews from Veach and Reid, along with everything I've read sure lead me to believe that THEY aren't worried about the knee.

I don't think Veach and Reid are stupid, so I'm going to assume they know things I don't.

so I'm not going to worry about it.

I'm assuming he's ready for camp, just like Reid says.
I would caution expecting him to be ready to go full day 1, but it's certainly possible based on how Reid said it.

At the every least, I think it means he will participate in TC and be ready for the season.
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Ya know what would be cool?

If people shared their thoughts on his ability based on the tape available- +/-/comparisons to other guys, etc.

8000 posts whining about if or if not when we all know only time is going to answer the uncertainty I think is sufficient to have drummed out every take regarding his knee.
I haven't done that.

Watching him athletically, the body size, the first comp I thought of was healthy D.J. Humphries. He was a really elite mover before the injury, if a touch on the smaller side for a LT.

He does have a lot more upper-body strength than guys you see who are that size, usually. Elite, perhaps, even.

The pre-injury package is pretty exciting based on his physical traits. His movement skills pop on play tape from this year, but his competition was also pretty meh, so it's hard to really tell how much of a jump he had made from 2023, when he was just an OK starter.

The only time I saw him live for an entire game was the Cotton Bowl. I don't remember Darius Robinson lining up over RE to match up against him much, but I do remember Johnny Walker winning from that side a few times, but Mizzou also ran junk fronts at times and would sometimes create weird matchups.

The healthy version of this player seems like an ascending guy with pretty close to perfect traits.
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Old Yesterday, 05:43 PM   #981
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is it really gonna be

"it's too risky"

"he has an injury thats super scary"

"well it's a risk vs reward type of thing"

"but it's so scary that he's injured"

"well if he can recover it will be great"

"but it's so scary that he's injured"

"ya it's a risk but it could possibly pay off"

"but it's so scary that he's injured, every team passed on him tho"


this type of back and forth for several months?

it is what it is, hope it pays off
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Trust in Butkholder.

The Chiefs have intimate knowledge of his injury and the surgery. Had the surgery not gone as well as it did they don't take him but he's healed well.

Seems like there is risk but at 32 seems like a great pick to me.
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Trust in Butkholder.

The Chiefs have intimate knowledge of his injury and the surgery. Had the surgery not gone as well as it did they don't take him but he's healed well.

Seems like there is risk but at 32 seems like a great pick to me.
This.

Burkholder, an athletic trainer with 30+ years of experience has directly examined him, thoroughly reviewed all of his medical information, etc., and says he’s good to go.

I doubt Burkholder would be pressured into reaching that conclusion if he didn’t believe it to be true.

So that’s who I am going to trust.
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We’ve seen in the past few years it’s impossible for us to find a left tackle because we keep winning and getting low draft picks.

How you gonna be mad at this? This is a legit tackle if not for an injury. We have the luxury of taking this shot. And we’ve got the perfect situation to situate him slowly. I think you’re all trying to hard for perfection.
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I think much of criticism of this high risk selection has taken for a granted a few things: 1) the chiefs are destined to win all close games. 2) the D will remain top 5-10 indefinitely 3) Chiefs O is destined to be great with Mahomes.

The first two I'm not even going to address, but #3 -- the Chiefs O *sucked* last year and the team had no business really making the SB. It was luck.

Look, the Chiefs dynasty was built on a high flying offense with Mahomes. That's what can make this insane dynasty continue -- and I think that's the view of Reid and Veach, too, and explains why they did this.
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Jesus, did he fly in a plane or did the plane fly around him?

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is it really gonna be

"it's too risky"

"he has an injury thats super scary"

"well it's a risk vs reward type of thing"

"but it's so scary that he's injured"

"well if he can recover it will be great"

"but it's so scary that he's injured"

"ya it's a risk but it could possibly pay off"

"but it's so scary that he's injured, every team passed on him tho"


this type of back and forth for several months?

it is what it is, hope it pays off
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