Let's Talk About the Eagles (Super Bowl 59 Discussion)

[SHOWTIME]

We're headed back to the Ship and will try to be the first team to 3-peat in Super Bowl history!!! Chiefs open up as 1.5 favorites over the Eagles.

Discuss.


and don't forget...

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[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

I refuse to believe that Andy Reid will lose to Nick Sirriani in the Super Bowl. Thats all I need to know about this matchup.

It's that, and I've been saying for a couple months now, I refuse to believe a team that seems fractured - even if it's at a micro level - can win a Super Bowl like Philly seems to be.

You have the ultimate team in Kansas City - they win games all year with different phases stepping up to the plate, they never show frustration with each other, no distrust, they just always expect the others on the team to step up when it's time.

With Philly, I don't see it. This is not a team. This is a roster of tremendous talent thrown together by Howie Roseman that often overwhelms their opponents with physical ability alone.

They ain't doing that to Kansas City.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

It's that, and I've been saying for a couple months now, I refuse to believe a team that seems fractured - even if it's at a micro level - can win a Super Bowl like Philly seems to be.

You have the ultimate team in Kansas City - they win games all year with different phases stepping up to the plate, they never show frustration with each other, no distrust, they just always expect the others on the team to step up when it's time.

With Philly, I don't see it. This is not a team. This is a roster of tremendous talent thrown together by Howie Roseman that often overwhelms their opponents with physical ability alone.

They ain't doing that to Kansas City.

How is Philly fractured?

[RunKC]

Verderame brought up something really interesting. Saquon is not a big receiving back with the Eagles. They haven’t used him that way.

4 receptions at most in any game. Only 2 receiving TD’s this entire season.

8 targets
7 receptions
32 yards
0 TD’s

Those are his receiving stats this postseason. He’s dangerous but I think McCaffrey was more dangerous bc he was an elite caliber receiving back.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

How is Philly fractured?

A.J. Brown is literally passive aggressively reading a book on the bench during games because he's unhappy with the passing game.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

How is Philly fractured?

All season this team has been a breath away from flipping out and turning on each other.

If the Chiefs go up 14 in this game they will be punching each other on the sidelines.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Kiimo

All season this team has been a breath away from flipping out and turning on each other.

If the Chiefs go up 14 in this game they will be punching each other on the sidelines.

This.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

How is Philly fractured?

And beyond what Staylor just said, their DL had to hold Sirianni back from Jalen Carter during a game just a month ago

Jalen Hurts said post-NFCCG, "coach let me out of the straight jacket"

That's just the tip of the iceberg. Nevermind that we saw this team melt down last year unlike any other.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Verderame brought up something really interesting. Saquon is not a big receiving back with the Eagles. They haven’t used him that way.

4 receptions at most in any game. Only 2 receiving TD’s this entire season.

8 targets
7 receptions
32 yards
0 TD’s

Those are his receiving stats this postseason. He’s dangerous but I think McCaffrey was more dangerous bc he was an elite caliber receiving back.

And that's a massive W for us, as we know RBs in the flats have been in a real pain in the ass when teams stay patient.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

And that's a massive W for us, as we know RBs in the flats have been in a real pain in the ass when teams stay patient.

That's been this defenses few weak areas outside of TE's and some RPO misdirection. Those swing routes out of the backfield we have NOT covered well all year.

So that's one less thing to worry about.

Don't ask me why I'm just not concerned about Barkely. And I could end up being wrong but we heard all this same shit last year facing CMC and he made no impact in the SB.

Spags just seems to know what it is we need to do to take away teams best guys.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Stolen from that ****-o Warren Sharp,

Hurts when under pressure this year:
#37 of 37 QBs in EPA/att
#37 of 37 QBs in success rate
#33 of 37 QBs in sack rate
#32 of 37 QBs in YPA

Such a great matchup for us IMO. Spags is going to come after his ass.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Stolen from that ****-o Warren Sharp,

Hurts when under pressure this year:
#37 of 37 QBs in EPA/att
#37 of 37 QBs in success rate
#33 of 37 QBs in sack rate
#32 of 37 QBs in YPA

Such a great matchup for us IMO. Spags is going to come after his ass.

Wasn't it Brady who said that Hurts is not the same (paraphrasing) when he has to hold onto the ball for 3-4 seconds?

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Stolen from that ****-o Warren Sharp,

Hurts when under pressure this year:
#37 of 37 QBs in EPA/att
#37 of 37 QBs in success rate
#33 of 37 QBs in sack rate
#32 of 37 QBs in YPA

Such a great matchup for us IMO. Spags is going to come after his ass.

Good God. I said earlier I thought he had regressed but that's really bad.

[DJay23]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Verderame brought up something really interesting. Saquon is not a big receiving back with the Eagles. They haven’t used him that way.

4 receptions at most in any game. Only 2 receiving TD’s this entire season.

8 targets
7 receptions
32 yards
0 TD’s

Those are his receiving stats this postseason. He’s dangerous but I think McCaffrey was more dangerous bc he was an elite caliber receiving back.

If Moore and Cirianni are smart, this is a wrinkle they could unleash on gotta have it downs.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

Wasn't it Brady who said that Hurts is not the same (paraphrasing) when he has to hold onto the ball for 3-4 seconds?

He's awful when he holds the ball. Chris Long has been beating that drum for years and especially this year, but Jalen still does it.

Me thinks our physical approach to coverage will indeed force him to hold it.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

That's been this defenses few weak areas outside of TE's and some RPO misdirection. Those swing routes out of the backfield we have NOT covered well all year.

So that's one less thing to worry about.

Don't ask me why I'm just not concerned about Barkely. And I could end up being wrong but we heard all this same shit last year facing CMC and he made no impact in the SB.

Spags just seems to know what it is we need to do to take away teams best guys.

CMC fumbled on the opening drive of the SB. I wouldn't say he had no impact though. He finished with 80 yards on 22 carries and 80 yards on 8 receptions with a TD. So 160 total yards. We shut down the run at least.

It's interesting the Eagles haven't used Barkley much in the passing game but maybe they were saving it for bigger games. This would be that game. The Rams game was a shitfest with the weather and they had several big run plays anyway. The Commanders kept turning the ball over and giving the Eagles shorter fields which changes the gameplan.

If I'm the Eagles, I put Barkley in space against the Chiefs LBs as much as possible. Same with Goedert. Most teams in the league would struggle covering TEs and RBs when there's two great WRs to also worry about. Also, try to isolate Cook and Johnson/Connor. Spags has shown he trusts Cook and these rookies CBs despite their struggles, though Hicks is also a rookie. Even the best coaches have their favorite pets that get more playing time than they should. This is a game where Watson and McDuffie should be on Brown/Smith and Williams is the 3rd CB. Hicks is more athletic than Cook and should take most of his snaps. We can't do anything about LBs in coverage so Tranquill will be out there on many passing plays. No depth options that are better, unlike at other defensive positions.