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Old 03-23-2022, 10:34 AM  
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins
Will update OP with more info.
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Old 03-23-2022, 02:59 PM   #976
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120 over 4 years. You do not get the full four years if you only pay him the guaranteed portion.
Dude, the ENTIRETY of his contract is guaranteed in the first two years - $50M now and $70M this time next year.

Unless they cut him and take a massive cap hit after 2022, they're on the hook.

It's not hard to understand.
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Old 03-23-2022, 02:59 PM   #977
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Same level?

Are you holding a poster like me to the antics of your worst enemies?

The central dynamic has been for a long time that I tried to find an optimistic path from promising player developments throughout the team and given the realities of the league, and for that I've been accused of everything from undyling love of Alex and mediocrity to wanting to birth his babies, even though I was just being objective and realistic.

And once the QB-fiends get what WE ALL WANTED in Mahomes, it turns into 'hey! Everything's fine, just enjoy!! Nobody makes mistakes anymore . . . There are no obstacles that can't be overcome with Mahomes flinging another few impossible passes, and if we don't win, . . . well maybe we win tomorrow, or next year, or in a few years, . . . stop moping.'

And even then, the response wasn't vitriol, but cautious admonition . . .

Who lobbed vitriol at you for overconfidence? Name names.
Good Lord. Stop being so dramatic and relax a bit.
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Old 03-23-2022, 02:59 PM   #978
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I was feeling pretty down about this but then realised the upside. Let's enjoy seeing everyone try and use their bullshit Cover 8/Cover 1 million approach now. Dicks.
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Old 03-23-2022, 02:59 PM   #979
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Leave it you(whoever you are) to completely miss the point. Some people argue he needs the money to take care of his family. As in a non greedy sort of way. If you can’t make ends meet on 20 million you aren’t on 30 was my point.

Option B is he wanted more money for himself in the “I want even more stuff” kind of way. Cars, houses etc which I’m calling him greedy on.

It doesn’t require a great deal of knowledge to come to the conclusion that it’s option B.

And if it it is Option A and he’s finically struggling with the money he’s making now then you’re right he has much bigger problems than winning.

Again see Nic Cage
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Old 03-23-2022, 02:59 PM   #980
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Name a player as good as Tyreek that New England traded away in their prime.

I mean top 10 in the league hall of fame caliber player.

Not some fringe pro bowler.
Traded? For sure these guys:
Seymour
Logan Mankins
Chandler Jones

And they've let many just walk too.
Ty Law comes to mind.
Lawyer Malloy
Wes Welker.
JC Jackson could end up one.

And plenty of quality talents too not as good as these.
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Old 03-23-2022, 02:59 PM   #981
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Yep. Me too. Sends the wrong message to the team CJ, doesn't it....
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Old 03-23-2022, 02:59 PM   #982
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Veach has 12 draft picks and 30m.....its a GM wet dream
Actuslly 13. Already had 10

And he has 12 next year

25 picks the next 2 years

18 in the first 4 rounds
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:00 PM   #983
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That’s not at all what the trade is.

You aren’t even including draft picks with the cap space.
Ok Hill or Ronald Jones, Clowney and Marquez Valdes-Scantling, an extra 1st rd pick and an extra 2nd round pick?
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:00 PM   #984
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I also don't understand pushing part of Frank Clark's dead money into next year if your whole goal is to save money for the future. All these moves make no sense in combination with each other.
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:00 PM   #985
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I’ll feel better about this trade if Veach can sign or trade for another impact veteran WR… not some Julio Jones-brokedick to provide a buffer as the Chiefs develop a rookie WR (or multiple rookie WR’s) into their offense.
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:00 PM   #986
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Please, someone make us the same offer for Jones.
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You're comparing brokedick Richard Seymour, system Wes Welker and washed Randy Moss to Tyreek Hill IN HIS PRIME!!!

This is copium of the highest order. None of those guys were close to as good as Hill is right now at the moment they were let go.
Seymour was a 3X first team all pro and multi year pro bowler coming off his best season when Bill traded him. He was 29 years old and still in his prime. The Raiders made him the highest paid player in football less than 2 years later.

Then they ended up drafting a guy named Chandler Jones and then Donta Hightower shortly after.

Yeah I’m gonna go with what history tells me. Dumbass
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:01 PM   #988
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You can be traded too, Chris Jones.
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:01 PM   #989
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It sucks to lose Tyreek. Have never and will never see another player with his skil set. The fastest player to ever play in the NFL. Would he have lost that speed over the next few years? Maybe, guess that's part of what the Chiefs are banking on?

The silver lining to this trade is Veach. He always seems to be one step ahead of the league. He's trying a soft rebuild before we have to pay ludicrous contracts and I think thats ultimately the right decision.
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Calling someone greedy for wanting more money is the dumbest ****ing thing imaginable. We all want more money.
Maybe. But I've had enough $$$ and taken a job for less before .Just depends on the situation.
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