Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 66

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Crush · 09-22-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Yep. That's why those football juggernauts Syracuse and Pitt were gobbled up by the ACC.

It's tiring really. You need a new tune. BBall is the meal ticket for many schools and conferences.

Just because some schools suck at both doesn't mean you should discount those that are good at bball.

Jim Boeheim was on Sportscenter the other day and he said Syracuse's move to the ACC was completely about football.

**ChiTown** · 09-22-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Yep. That's why those football juggernauts Syracuse and Pitt were gobbled up by the ACC.

It's tiring really. You need a new tune. BBall is the meal ticket for many schools and conferences.

Just because some schools suck at both doesn't mean you should discount those that are good at bball.

**DaKCMan AP** · 09-22-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Yep. That's why those football juggernauts Syracuse and Pitt were gobbled up by the ACC.

It's tiring really. You need a new tune. BBall is the meal ticket for many schools and conferences.

Just because some schools suck at both doesn't mean you should discount those that are good at bball.

It's about $$ and viewership. Syracuse and Pitt have more football fans and viewership than every school in the Big XII not named Texas, A&M, OU, Mizzou, and TTU.

Bambi · 09-22-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush

Jim Boeheim was on Sportscenter the other day and he said Syracuse's move to the ACC was completely about football.

I would too if I just abandoned a conference that I was a charter member of.

3 bowl games in 10 years and a stadium smaller than Kansas's.

Please tell me what the draw is in Syracuse football.

Especially compared to where it's bball program is.

Reerun_KC · 09-22-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Duke, Stanford, Kansas, Wake Forest, Syracuse, UConn, Indiana, all immediately come to mind.

There are many more but I'm bored of looking

No offense dude.

But as a KU fan and the shit product we offer in football...

I would be thankful if ANY BCS conference took KU...

We offer a conference nothing in comparision... Yeah we are kings of BB. Football is life and death for schools..

Right now if our football program with Radio was on life support, people would of already pulled the plug...

KU without basketball is a nice university, but its not BCS worthy...

Sorry to bust your bubble...

Bambi · 09-22-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

It's about $$ and viewership. Syracuse and Pitt have more football fans and viewership than every school in the Big XII not named Texas, A&M, OU, Mizzou, and TTU.

Is Syracuse a basketball school or a football school?

I live in NY. Syracuse basketball is a much bigger viewership draw than it's football team on TV.

Same thing as KU.

Not saying that a bunch of people don't watch their football games but it's not bigger than their bball. Just isn't.

Stewie · 09-22-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush

Jim Boeheim was on Sportscenter the other day and he said Syracuse's move to the ACC was completely about football.

Soren Petro commented on that. He was totally confused and he's a Syracuse alum. They wanted Syracuse for football? He then had the Miami play by play announcer on and asked about Syracuse going to the ACC.

Soren: Are you scared that we're now in the ACC and will beat your ass in football?

Miami PBP guy: NO!!!

Soren: Yeah, we were your doormat in the Big East. Nothing will change.

Miami: snicker

Stewie · 09-22-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

It's about $$ and viewership. Syracuse and Pitt have more football fans and viewership than every school in the Big XII not named Texas, A&M, OU, Mizzou, and TTU.

Complete bullshit. You need to listen to Soren Petro, a Syracuse alum. He worked in the market. Yes, there are tons of TVs, but very few give a shit about college football in the northeast. It's all about the Jets, Giants, Patriots. He also laughs that Rutgers is a NYC market. Yes it is, and no one watches or cares.

Bambi · 09-22-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC

No offense dude.

But as a KU fan and the shit product we offer in football...

I would be thankful if ANY BCS conference took KU...

We offer a conference nothing in comparision... Yeah we are kings of BB. Football is life and death for schools..

Right now if our football program with Radio was on life support, people would of already pulled the plug...

KU without basketball is a nice university, but its not BCS worthy...

Sorry to bust your bubble...

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Kansas has the Big 12's second largest endowment and second largest 3rd tier rights deal. (assuming A&M is out)

It's not the football team that made that possible. The schools I quoted all made more revenue in bball then they did in football in 2010.

Seems everyone around here is obsessed with saying their school is more "valuable" and "important" than another.

I don't want the conference to change. And it won't change.

The Big 12 is the best option for KU, KSU, MU and ISU. I've said that from the beginning. Whether or not Larry Scott called Perkins or didn't call Perkins is immaterial to me.

Saying KU offers nothing to a BCS conference and being "thankful" that a conference would take KU just doesn't fit with my opinion. But if it does with yours then it's all good.

ChiefsCountry · 09-22-2011, 03:37 PM

Syracuse and Pittsburgh are both top 20 all time in college football wins.

Bambi · 09-22-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

Complete bullshit. You need to listen to Soren Petro, a Syracuse alum. He worked in the market. Yes, there are tons of TVs, but very few give a shit about college football in the northeast. It's all about the Jets, Giants, Patriots. He also laughs that Rutgers is a NYC market. Yes it is, and no one watches or cares.

CBB is king in the northeast. Just because southerners like to camp out in a parking lot 100,000 at a time doesn't mean that the bball schools don't bring in a huge amount of money.

Syracuse to the ACC shifts the balance of power in cbb to that conference. It was a great move but something tells me that Syracuse might be feeling a bi shitty about jumping the gun on armaggedon. They were a charter member of the Big East. It's kinda ****ed up to just leave. Glad my school isn't like that.

Stewie · 09-22-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Syracuse and Pittsburgh are both top 20 all time in college football wins.

Who cares? Ancient history doesn't matter.

Bambi · 09-22-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Syracuse and Pittsburgh are both top 20 all time in college football wins.

Syracuse has the 5th most all time wins in basketball.

Reerun_KC · 09-22-2011, 03:41 PM

And for my view?

**** the big 12.. I am sick of it and its conference...

Lets go to the B1G or the PAC - whatever...

Hell even the SEC for that matter, Just get me away from Texas....

ChiefsCountry · 09-22-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

Who cares? Ancient history doesn't matter.

They have been a darn good program for the last 25 years other than hiring Greg Robinson. All bc Petro is just throwing out bullshit doesn't mean its true.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $736966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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