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Old 04-30-2022, 04:32 PM  
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Old 08-24-2022, 11:17 AM   #976
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I have to agree wtih Staylor, just downvoting posts without addressing why is passive aggressive and is pretty much bitchmade
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So again, the run blocking is so terrible that everybody continues to point to one single play to paint a narrative.
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Old 08-24-2022, 11:20 AM   #978
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None of us know about any of these guys and won't for awhile. I've no idea why people get wound up about this stuff. One of us sees something, someone disagrees. Well we'll get to see who was right eventually and we've all got the receipts.

I thought from the very little I've seen that he goes down a little easy on contact and his vision isn't great. But he also looks fast and like he can catch. My guess is the cons outweigh the pros and he doesn't make a big impression. But it'll be fun to be wrong and happy for others to say "I told you so".
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I have to agree wtih Staylor, just downvoting posts without addressing why is passive aggressive and is pretty much bitchmade
It's not a surprise that the only people that don't see it that way are also bitchmade.
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Old 08-24-2022, 11:22 AM   #980
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So again, the run blocking is so terrible that everybody continues to point to one single play to paint a narrative.
It's something that he struggled with in college though. I don't know that feel and vision are something that can really be taught that much, but moreso seems to come with play time.
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Old 08-24-2022, 11:22 AM   #981
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What do the 9ers look for in their RB's from a skill standpoint? WE should copy them. They find them every where.
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Old 08-24-2022, 11:24 AM   #982
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Old 08-24-2022, 11:25 AM   #983
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It's something that he struggled with in college though. I don't know that feel and vision are something that can really be taught that much, but moreso seems to come with play time.
Another person that doesn't understand just how bad Rutgers OL, QB, and offense in general was.

I don't have a problem with people saying that it's a question mark. It's hard to tell what was his fault and what was the result of playing in an abysmal offense on a trash team. It's just too hard to tell when his situation was THAT bad.

My point is that one single play in the preseason does not even come close to answering that question.
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Old 08-24-2022, 11:26 AM   #984
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Another person that doesn't understand just how bad Rutgers OL, QB, and offense in general was.

I don't have a problem with people saying that it's a question mark. It's hard to tell what was his fault and what was playing in an abysmal offense on a trash team.

My point is that one single play on the preseason does not even come close to answering that question.
It's a clear question mark. I think we can all leave it at that. Guy has great physical traits but hasn't shown a whole lot to distinguish himself and we're left being really excited about his contact balance after his one flash play against the Bears. Yay.

I'm sure we'll have a lot more to discuss tomorrow evening as a super small sample size elevates to a small sample size.
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Another person that doesn't understand just how bad Rutgers OL, QB, and offense in general was.

I don't have a problem with people saying that it's a question mark. It's hard to tell what was his fault and what was playing in an abysmal offense on a trash team.

My point is that one single play on the preseason does not even come close to answering that question.
But playing on shit teams wouldn't necessarily cause those issues. Jamal Charles ran behind shit OL here, could feel and find holes. It's not always the case, but I'd guess there were times they had it blocked up and he ran up the G ass.

One preseason play in and of itself doesn't tell us much. When it's a recurring theme he's had in his time and a knock on him in college, it's another data point.
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But playing on shit teams wouldn't necessarily cause those issues. Jamal Charles ran behind shit OL here, could feel and find holes. It's not always the case, but I'd guess there were times they had it blocked up and he ran up the G ass.

One preseason play in and of itself doesn't tell us much. When it's a recurring theme he's had in his time and a knock on him in college, it's another data point.
It's obvious that you still have no clue just how bad the situation was at Rutgers. I'll just leave it at that.

It's not even comparable to a bad NFL OL.
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It's obvious that you still have no clue just how bad the situation was at Rutgers. I'll just leave it at that.

It's not even comparable to a bad NFL OL.
Hey, don't take out your downvote anger on me. You brought that on yourself.
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Hey, don't take out your downvote anger on me. You brought that on yourself.
At least Superturtle and Twisted are actually clever/funny

Your attempts at being funny are exactly what I'd expect from a ****ing dentist.
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It's a clear question mark. I think we can all leave it at that. Guy has great physical traits but hasn't shown a whole lot to distinguish himself and we're left being really excited about his contact balance after his one flash play against the Bears. Yay.

I'm sure we'll have a lot more to discuss tomorrow evening as a super small sample size elevates to a small sample size.
Right.

If we can postulate about all the positives from Josh Williams and Karlaftis, then it should be ok to acknowledge that Pacheco hasn't given us anything to glow about the way the other rookies have.

I understand all the "but but buts". The end result is we haven't seen anything yet from the kid aside from some pass catching ability.
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