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Old 04-26-2024, 07:20 PM  
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Old 11-11-2024, 02:27 PM   #976
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He has no idea how to use his hands. Unbelievable.

How could this scouting staff not see this on tape from BYU? It’s like everyone else saw it but us
Oh my ****ing goodness.

He looks like how PeeWee players move and act.
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Old 11-11-2024, 02:30 PM   #977
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Maybe I’m crazy, but didn’t Kingsley only take the job in TC when Wanya was hurt?

It’s not like he just outright won it in an open competition. It was kinda by default, right?
Uhh, no. Morris got injured week 3 of preseason. You know, the game where the starters have a siesta and all the scrubs fight for their place on the roster.
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Old 11-11-2024, 02:32 PM   #978
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Uhh, no. Morris got injured week 3 of preseason. You know, the game where the starters have a siesta and all the scrubs fight for their place on the roster.
I must be remembering incorrectly. I thought Morris got hurt early in camp and missed time, which was when Kingsley took the job.
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I looked it up. Morris had a shoulder injury at the beginning of August before the preseason games.

That must be what I’m thinking of.
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I must be remembering incorrectly. I thought Morris got hurt early in camp and missed time, which was when Kingsley took the job.
He did leave a practice on the cart. He was working at LG on the second string that day. So, again, really not doing much to dispel the notion that Suamataia took his job in TC.
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Old 11-11-2024, 02:38 PM   #981
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Oh my ****ing goodness.

He looks like how PeeWee players move and act.
I think his heads gone. I'm really not convinced his tape shows anything THIS bad. He needs a lot of work because that is "diabolical bust" level play
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The strange thing is he looked just fine against the Ravens.
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I genuinely think it's because they never saw him against speed.

We don't HAVE any. So who the hell is he going to against in Camp that shows that he can't handle guys who can attack his outside shoulder relentlessly?

The guys that have killed him have just DESTROYED his outside shoulder. Over and over and over and over again.

And he just doesn't know how/where/when to aim and deliver his punch on guys like that.

Its kinda crazy to me.
He had elite measurables and athleticism.

6’5 326 lbs
10+ hands
34+ arms
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31 bench reps

He has outstanding speed for his size and was looking great on screens in camp. I think they thought the traits were there and Andy Heck could coach him up and he’d be playable but man.

Fisher was similar but he wasn’t near this bad as a rookie.
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He also played at BYU. Not gonna see alot of NFL bodies at LT there ?
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He had elite measurables and athleticism.

6’5 326 lbs
10+ hands
34+ arms
5.04 40
31 bench reps

He has outstanding speed for his size and was looking great on screens in camp. I think they thought the traits were there and Andy Heck could coach him up and he’d be playable but man.

Fisher was similar but he wasn’t near this bad as a rookie.
Fisher didn't play LT as a rookie though.
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He had elite measurables and athleticism.

6’5 326 lbs
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5.04 40
31 bench reps

He has outstanding speed for his size and was looking great on screens in camp. I think they thought the traits were there and Andy Heck could coach him up and he’d be playable but man.

Fisher was similar but he wasn’t near this bad as a rookie.
Like I said yesterday - it's just a confidence thing for him right now, IMO.

He's looks caught in between. He's so worried about missing his punch that he won't even deliver it and suddenly you have the DE just dictating the rep.

With a slower DE, he's not as concerned about throwing it and missing because the dude's not gonna have the quickness to completely evade it. But these fast DEs are just getting in his head.

It's absolutely mental. The physical traits are very clearly there. And as O.City has often pointed out, simply finding human beings that size with that length and that kind of quickness is an awfully rare thing.

So when you have a chance to get your hands on one, you do it. And hope you can coach up the rest.

I understand why they took him (and loved that they did). And truthfully, I hope they don't abandon the experiment. Because I don't truly think he's the disaster that others think he is.

Jordan Black showed he simply didn't have the physical tools for the job. Kingsley, weirdly, has shown me that he does. He just doesn't know how to use them. Or has gotten so deep into his own head that he's afraid to try.
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Letting Hendrickson wear his ass out all game ****ed his confidence. I still cannot believe that was the game plan.
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He did leave a practice on the cart. He was working at LG on the second string that day. So, again, really not doing much to dispel the notion that Suamataia took his job in TC.
I may still believe it though. It makes me feel better.
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He has no idea how to use his hands. Unbelievable.

How could this scouting staff not see this on tape from BYU? It’s like everyone else saw it but us




No.



This kid can not play again this season.



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Having watched him closely in camp and preseason, he looked nowhere close to that level as awful as yesterday. I fully understand we are not comparing apples to apples when comparing training camp/preseason reps to regular season reps, but I believe that yesterday could have pointed as much to his lack of preparation since losing the starting job as any. Perhaps he has maturity issues he needs to work out to ensure that he is ready to play when called upon. Was really disappointing to say the least.
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