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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 09-23-2021, 10:25 AM   #9736
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Old 09-23-2021, 10:29 AM   #9737
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Lol. If reeruns keep tuning in to see the same few teams dominate and one of them win the title every year, there’s no incentive to improve the sport
I've heard a bit of that theory, that it will become a regional sport and people outside the hot beds will stop caring. An interview with someone from the NE made it seem pretty clear that people up there already don't give a shit about college football.
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Old 09-23-2021, 10:29 AM   #9738
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Old 09-23-2021, 10:32 AM   #9739
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I've heard a bit of that theory, that it will become a regional sport and people outside the hot beds will stop caring. An interview with someone from the NE made it seem pretty clear that people up there already don't give a shit about college football.
College football is dull as hell these days. I used to watch it all day Saturdays. Whoever was on, I'd watch. I'd watch all the pregame shows as well.

I might watch a few minutes here and there now. but it just doesn't interest me any longer.
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Old 09-24-2021, 04:31 PM   #9740
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Old 09-24-2021, 08:41 PM   #9741
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College football is dull as hell these days. I used to watch it all day Saturdays. Whoever was on, I'd watch. I'd watch all the pregame shows as well.

I might watch a few minutes here and there now. but it just doesn't interest me any longer.
I agree with that. Competitive balance is an issue and the general interesting-ness of college FB across the country seems to be down.
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Old 09-24-2021, 08:55 PM   #9742
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people watch KU play hoops in the Big whateverthe**** still
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Old 09-25-2021, 02:24 PM   #9743
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So I’ve heard from a few different people that there are a few PAC12 schools interested in joining the Big12. Obviously it would be a few years out from now, and would be based on how media negotiations go for both conferences.

But allegedly Arizona, Arizona St, and Colorado are interested in joining the Big12. The 4th school mentioned with them is Boise St(?), personally I’d prefer Memphis, but surprised Utah wasn’t the 4th.

I’d assume that’s a backup plan for them if the B1G rumors of adding 4-6 of Oregon, USC, and so on. Or who knows, maybe the Big12 ends up with that rumored Amazon deal who’s known to overpay and wants the Big12 at 14-16 teams.

I think this four pod Big12 could be fun.

Arizona
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Iowa State
Kansas
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West Virginia
UCF

But I’m still holding out hope that the B1G expands, and it’s with Iowa State and Kansas.
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Old 09-30-2021, 03:59 PM   #9746
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But allegedly Arizona, Arizona St, and Colorado are interested in joining the Big12.
I had to stop reading here.

Even if (IF!) teams wanted to leave a stable conference for this cluster, there is no f-ing way Colorado is one of them. They couldn't wait to join the P12, I think the term thrown around was "better cultural fit" (west coast over midwest)
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Old 09-30-2021, 04:00 PM   #9747
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So I’ve heard from a few different people that there are a few PAC12 schools interested in joining the Big12. Obviously it would be a few years out from now, and would be based on how media negotiations go for both conferences.

But allegedly Arizona, Arizona St, and Colorado are interested in joining the Big12. The 4th school mentioned with them is Boise St(?), personally I’d prefer Memphis, but surprised Utah wasn’t the 4th.

I’d assume that’s a backup plan for them if the B1G rumors of adding 4-6 of Oregon, USC, and so on. Or who knows, maybe the Big12 ends up with that rumored Amazon deal who’s known to overpay and wants the Big12 at 14-16 teams.

I think this four pod Big12 could be fun.

Arizona
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Colorado
BYU

Iowa State
Kansas
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Oklahoma State

Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
TCU

Cincinnati
Memphis
West Virginia
UCF

But I’m still holding out hope that the B1G expands, and it’s with Iowa State and Kansas.
The California schools will not want to be split between two conferences and will want to play each other every year if in the same.
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Old 09-30-2021, 04:14 PM   #9748
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I had to stop reading here.

Even if (IF!) teams wanted to leave a stable conference for this cluster, there is no f-ing way Colorado is one of them. They couldn't wait to join the P12, I think the term thrown around was "better cultural fit" (west coast over midwest)
That definitely stuck out to me as well, but hearing it from a few different people was interesting. But the PAC was probably the least stable conference up until Texas and OU decided to join the SEC.
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Plus you had Boise State and San Diego State today saying they would not join AAC and stay with the Mountain West because they were waiting on a Big 12 or a PAC 12 possible bid.
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So I’ve heard from a few different people that there are a few PAC12 schools interested in joining the Big12. Obviously it would be a few years out from now, and would be based on how media negotiations go for both conferences.

But allegedly Arizona, Arizona St, and Colorado are interested in joining the Big12. The 4th school mentioned with them is Boise St(?), personally I’d prefer Memphis, but surprised Utah wasn’t the 4th.

I’d assume that’s a backup plan for them if the B1G rumors of adding 4-6 of Oregon, USC, and so on. Or who knows, maybe the Big12 ends up with that rumored Amazon deal who’s known to overpay and wants the Big12 at 14-16 teams.

I think this four pod Big12 could be fun.

Arizona
Arizona St
Colorado
BYU

Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State

Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
TCU

Cincinnati
Memphis
West Virginia
UCF

But I’m still holding out hope that the B1G expands, and it’s with Iowa State and Kansas.

I like these 4 pods!
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