*****The Josh Simmons Thread*****

[Dante84]

More to come!

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— Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) April 25, 2025

Several teams agree: Josh Simmons had best tape of any OT last year. And they aren't very concerned with recovery on the torn patella tendon. More of the concern is maturity/character. But he's going to the ideal, veteran-laden place.

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) April 25, 2025

the #chiefs get LT Josh Simmons out of Ohio State. If Simmons didn't suffer a torn patellar tendon he would have been the first tackle off the board. I had one team tell me he was the most athletic and talented tackle tape they watched. There are some maturity issues, but this…

— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs have selected #OSU OT Josh Simmons at No. 32, a player recovering nicely from a torn patellar tendon. They are comfortable with his rehab and did endless homework on it. https://t.co/awdb0JhPed

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs are selecting Ohio State LT Josh Simmons at No. 32 to close out Round 1.

A key addition to bolster the offensive line in front of Patrick Mahomes. pic.twitter.com/oBx2CjzmCe

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) April 25, 2025

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Only thing I heard is Simmons say the Chiefs did the most work on him relative to the rest of the league. What that actually entailed and why they decided it meant his career isn't already effectively over I have no clue. Just hope they're right.

I hope they're right, too. I've been consistent in that. It's a huge, huge win if they are.

[Palangi]

We should do an over/under on how long this debate will be dragged on. The same tired arguments of failure already

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Palangi

We should do an over/under on how long this debate will be dragged on. The same tired arguments of failure already

This is an issue that could flare up on him at any point for the rest of his life.

Think of it like herpes in your knee...

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Palangi

We should do an over/under on how long this debate will be dragged on. The same tired arguments of failure already

Volunteer gig.

You're welcome to actually add to the discourse if you'd like. Or jet -- I don't suspect you'll be missed.

Whatchya think about his pass blocking? Kingsley looked great in space in college and showed outstanding raw athleticism out there. Then tripped over his dick trying to pass block in the pros.

What did you see from him in his platform season to suggest that WON'T be the case for him? Was it when they shredded Western Michigan?

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Palangi

We should do an over/under on how long this debate will be dragged on. The same tired arguments of failure already

Oh, it will go on for forever.

Like smooth-brained, emotional people who have no counter-arguments, who start applying thumb downs to every post by a poster with whom they disagree, because they need SOME sort of win and think it does anything but inspire amusement.

When even positive posts like "I hope they're right, too. I've been consistent in that. It's a huge, huge win if they are." are getting a thumbs down from someone, you know SOMEONE has tapped out.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Palangi

We should do an over/under on how long this debate will be dragged on. The same tired arguments of failure already

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

When even positive posts like "I hope they're right, too. I've been consistent in that. It's a huge, huge win if they are." are getting a thumbs down from someone, you know SOMEONE has tapped out.

I'm going to suspect they're much less content with their lives. So, our frustration is only temporary.

[Anyong Bluth]

Ya know what would be cool?

If people shared their thoughts on his ability based on the tape available- +/-/comparisons to other guys, etc.

8000 posts whining about if or if not when we all know only time is going to answer the uncertainty I think is sufficient to have drummed out every take regarding his knee.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Ya know what would be cool?

If people shared their thoughts on his ability based on the tape available- +/-/comparisons to other guys, etc.

8000 posts whining about if or if not when we all know only time is going to answer the uncertainty I think is sufficient to have drummed out every take regarding his knee.

I did that. How you think it's gonna turn out?

I'm eagerly awaiting Palangi's deep dive.

[htismaqe]

I fully trust this front office and I fully expect Simmons to end up being a good player. Let's do this.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by -King-

100%. Which is why both sides can be valid. He can turn out to be great based on his potential before the injury. Or he could either never play again or be a very diminished version of himself. I don't know why people are mad about acknowledging the latter. Or be mad that people wanted someone who would contribute all 5 years of his 1st round rookie deal.

That’s why I was never upset about CEH. He was a solid contributor his first few years. Then injuries came and you can’t ever account for that. He was always cheap.

If Simmons helps us get to another Super Bowl win in the next few years and then falls off after that, it’s still a win. Because he’s cheap.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by -King-

100%. Which is why both sides can be valid. He can turn out to be great based on his potential before the injury. Or he could either never play again or be a very diminished version of himself. I don't know why people are mad about acknowledging the latter. Or be mad that people wanted someone who would contribute all 5 years of his 1st round rookie deal.

Even a diminished version of himself would probably be better than what we had last year.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Palangi

We should do an over/under on how long this debate will be dragged on. The same tired arguments of failure already

For those dying on that hill it would have to be an +8 year career with above average results. He'll be more scrutinized than Eric Fisher

[sedated]

Instant draft reactions/grades always crack me up. Look at the draft from 3, 4, 5 years ago and the opinions at the time it happened. It’s even more speculation when major injuries are a factor

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by wannaGOback

You’re obviously baiting a political response to violate ToS, and I will happily oblige because unlike you and many others, my residency here means absolutely nothing to me.

So to answer your statement: No, it’s not a logical fallacy. That’s just a made-up notion of a popular, warped, and celebrity “stamp of approval” think-tank, like this board and many other segregated echo chambers of the internet.

There is no begging the question. We know that a fetus will become a human life capable of contemplating the very question we ask. The only thing we can’t “know for sure” is when. Anyone empathetic enough to that proposition can do the research and come to a rational conclusion though. The fetus develops sensory response in the first trimester. Touch, taste, hearing, smell, and eyesight. Cognitive function is what undoubtably makes us human. There’s also extensive study that proves that language development, pattern recognition, and memory are imprinted in the womb through interaction with the mother in the third trimester.

By all means though, close your eyes and say “but we don’t know for sure.” By that same logic, a schizophrenic mass-murderer can claim they don’t “know for sure” that anyone is more than a figment of their imagination. Personal perspective doesn’t change the fact that common sense conclusions exist. If you hear hooves and want to argue zebras, you’re just a fool.

If abortion wasn’t a grievance, why the society-breaking level of grievance from both parties? Obviously life is much more convenient with abortion as an option for both men and women. It’s more logical to assert that it’s a justified convenience instead of what would be a dreaded hardship for a certain group of people. I also think that any logical, empathetic person would be more worried about being wrong about the assumptions of inception of human life, something we are already making a bold claim we “don’t know” about in proponent to the contrary and forego the possibility of being an incorrect murderer. Ah but you see, the lack of caution and personal responsibility is ironically a common theme for one side of this debate. So let’s talk about “my choice.”

Women should have choice over their bodies. In fact they do. Every woman selects who they mate with. It wasn’t always this way. They choose who enters their bodies and creates the possibility of a child. In the fringe, fringe cases of rape which are used as a pillar of the argument for many, and by the way statistically 1/10000000(another logical fallacy). I think it can be justifiable to terminate the pregnancy due to the complex relationship that it would obviously create between mother and child and surrounding community. But for the other 9999999 cases where a woman incapable of self-control(consensual sex with a non-partner) or obvious foresight(contraception)it’s not LOGICAL to give the same “justification” for the vast majority out of intention for the very few.

Eat **** pie, queer!