Chiefs Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect - Page 65

RunKC · 02-09-2025, 08:08 PM

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen

**chiefforlife** · 02-13-2025, 10:35 PM

The consensus #1 OT in the draft, chosen in the top 10, is available with NO draft capital required...

STRENGTHS

—Has sweet feet at the right tackle position that showed up in his kick-slide, with quickness off the line of scrimmage and an ability to dominate at the second level.

—Smooth pass-protector who was asked to keep the blind side of left-handed quarterback clean.

—First movement is super explosive; easy movements with loose hips and a powerful base.

—Smart, savvy blocker who has a feel for where defenders are; will peel back off his block and look for someone to hit in the run game.

—Good agility to get outside on screen plays and can be a lead blocker.

—Plays with a mean streak and is a true finisher in the run game.

—So fast out of his stance that speed rushers can't beat him off the ball.

—Natural athlete who will excel in a zone or power-blocking scheme.

—Easy movement, agility and burst make us think he'll have no trouble playing left tackle.

WEAKNESSES

—Very patient but waits too long to shoot his arms and punch; stays in his slide too long.

—Plays a little high in the run game.

—Two-year starter who is still a little raw in his punch technique and timing.

OVERALL

Wills is the clear-cut OT1 in the 2020 draft class thanks to his toughness, agility and awareness coming out of Alabama. He has the tools to be an All-Pro-caliber performer at either tackle spot and could even be a world-class guard if needed on the inside. He's one of the cleanest offensive lineman prospects in some time and has room to continue improving once in the NFL.

GRADE: 94

PRO COMPARISON: Jason Peters/Dion Dawkins

We could look at this like, see you could trade into the top 10 and take the best OT in the draft and still not get your LTOTF.

We could also look at this like, how could a player widely considered the best OT to come out in awhile fall this far?

This is our chance to get THE Best LT in that draft, a guy we would never be able to trade up for, with very LITTLE risk.

I think Wills has to be in the equation. There is huge potential for a home run with this guy.

Unless we are able to sign Stanley or Jackson (Unlikely), then I think we have to take a chance with Wills.

If Humphries is brought back or even if they sign Robinson, get Wills in here to compete with them and Kingsley.

Cleveland has a history of letting good even great O lineman out of the building.

FloridaMan88 · 02-13-2025, 10:42 PM

Wills is a broke dick quitter… no thanks.

Link: https://brownswire.usatoday.com/list...-agency-no-go/

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Jedrick Wills Jr. has been a source of frustration for the Cleveland Browns, and his future with the team should be in serious doubt heading into 2025. While he has shown flashes of competence at left tackle since being drafted 10th overall in 2020, his inconsistency, lack of progression, and questionable mentality have made him more of a liability than an asset.

One of the most damning moments of Wills’ tenure came in November 2024, when he chose to sit out a critical divisional matchup against the Baltimore Ravens despite suffering only a minor knee injury. The Browns lost that game, and Wills later admitted “I made a business decision not to play.”

That statement alone should be a red flag for the franchise. Football is a physically demanding sport, and players often push through pain to help their team win. Wills’ admission suggests that his interests came before the team’s success—a mentality that doesn’t belong in a winning locker room.

**chiefforlife** · 02-13-2025, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Wills is a broke dick quitter… no thanks.

Link: https://brownswire.usatoday.com/list...-agency-no-go/

It is possible that he was so done with Cleveland, a month from hitting free agency that he decided to not make a minor injury into a major one right before his chance for a new start.

Reading his draft report, he is the guy we are all pining for. Knowing we cant trade up that far to get.

Here is our chance to get the top OT in his draft class for zero draft picks.

How or why would we not take that chance? Maybe he never becomes our LT but plays RT or even Guard. Thats a win. OR he DOES become our LT and its a HUGE WIN!

**RealSNR** · 02-13-2025, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Yes but we're in the middle of a dynasty. Were any of those teams?

The most reliable way to keep being in a dynasty is to SOLVE this stupid position once and for all. Well... at least until Mahomes retires.

I think Mahomes can survive another year of veteran stop gaps. Maybe two more. I don't know about doing this to him perpetually all because we're in the middle of a dynasty and we're too afraid to draft, develop, and eventually start our own LT.

It has to be done some time, man. Do you want broke dicks like DJ Humphries the rest of this dynasty?

**New World Order** · 02-13-2025, 11:00 PM

We're in a tough spot.

Early picks have treated us so well lately:

Mcduffie, Karlaftis, Rice, Worthy, Bolton, Humphrey.

Do you take off a year and trade multiple picks for the second best LT prospect in the draft?

Tough call.

TheGuardian · 02-13-2025, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

The most reliable way to keep being in a dynasty is to SOLVE this stupid position once and for all. Well... at least until Mahomes retires.

I think Mahomes can survive another year of veteran stop gaps. Maybe two more. I don't know about doing this to him perpetually all because we're in the middle of a dynasty and we're too afraid to draft, develop, and eventually start our own LT.

It has to be done some time, man. Do you want broke dicks like DJ Humphries the rest of this dynasty?

Do we have a competent LT on this roster????

louie aguiar · 02-13-2025, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Amen to THIS

All of this talk about throwing last years second out the window already is laughable, Kingsley is getting at least another two years to show something at a minimum

Just gimme a three way camp battle between him and two vets, we'll get a worthy starter out of that fight IMO

The fact that they have already moved him to guard seems like a bad sign. I don’t think they make that move if they think he still has a shot at being the LTOTF.

RaidersOftheCellar · 02-13-2025, 11:40 PM

Would Donovan Smith have done a better job than Thuney in the Super Bowl (plus allowing Thuney to slide back to LG)?

Ugh...

**RealSNR** · 02-13-2025, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Do we have a competent LT on this roster????

It's possible one guy could be a competent LT some day. Could even happen this season. Or he might need more time than that. And yes, there's also possibility that he'll never be a good NFL LT.

If he's got the frame and the talent and even the bloodlines/support, I think taking that raw player with a year of experience is better than pissing away draft picks in a bad year for LTs.

Our options are to blow our wad trading for a good LT on a tanking team, overpaying for Cam Robinson, or doing the Humphries/other vet thing and hope Kingsley or another guy we draft will one day take the job.

Sassy Squatch · 02-14-2025, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Wills is a broke dick quitter… no thanks.

Link: https://brownswire.usatoday.com/list...-agency-no-go/

Yeah, I can't say I give too much of a **** knowing the Browns are horrendously inept at managing player injury. Both Mayfield and Watson played through pretty significant injuries that they really ought not to have.

Chris Meck · 02-14-2025, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

If KC were to take another OT early it doesn’t mean you’re throwing him out. He’d still be able to compete at LT and if that doesn’t work there is still RG or RT in 2026 when Taylor is gone. I’d still love to sign Stanley or Jackson (or Robinson I suppose) if any are available but if that doesn’t work out and you have to sign a tier B or C FA at LT (Humphries) I don’t think the answer is to steer clear in the draft when OT is going to be a huge need yet again in 2026.

This is a particularly bad OT draft, so ignoring that because you WANT an OT is a bad idea.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-14-2025, 07:01 AM

On the off chance Ronnie Stanley becomes available, free agency in general is gonna be tough. With cap inflation we have some teams with an absurd amount of cash to spend. And are in desperate desperate need of a LT and some of them like Chicago, Washington and New England have young QBs they want to build around. If the draft class is as weak as they say then they’re going to hit this hard.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-14-2025, 07:16 AM

Full transparency I only casually follow college football. Is josh Simmons not worth a look? An OT whose draft stock plummeted because of an injury seems like something a bottom of the draft team could consider. Is it because we just don’t think he’s going to drop that far? There seem to be mock drafts that think he’ll fall because of small sample size and injury.

The other consideration is that failed LTs often become quality linemen elsewhere. If we fail at LT but he becomes even an adequate RT or OG, it’s not a total waste. Something to keep in mind if we think the guy needs to be a stud… or else.

duncan_idaho · 02-14-2025, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Full transparency I only casually follow college football. Is josh Simmons not worth a look? An OT whose draft stock plummeted because of an injury seems like something a bottom of the draft team could consider. Is it because we just don’t think he’s going to drop that far? There seem to be mock drafts that think he’ll fall because of small sample size and injury.

The other consideration is that failed LTs often become quality linemen elsewhere. If we fail at LT but he becomes even an adequate RT or OG, it’s not a total waste. Something to keep in mind if we think the guy needs to be a stud… or else.

But his stock doesn’t appear to have plummeted, at least not right now.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-14-2025, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

But his stock doesn’t appear to have plummeted, at least not right now.

Got it. I saw mixed feelings on mock drafts with some thinking he’d fall into the 20s. I know those are super unreliable so was just curious…

02-09-2025, 08:08 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-730389	Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it. I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer. It needs to happen
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chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5563147	The consensus #1 OT in the draft, chosen in the top 10, is available with NO draft capital required... STRENGTHS —Has sweet feet at the right tackle position that showed up in his kick-slide, with quickness off the line of scrimmage and an ability to dominate at the second level. —Smooth pass-protector who was asked to keep the blind side of left-handed quarterback clean. —First movement is super explosive; easy movements with loose hips and a powerful base. —Smart, savvy blocker who has a feel for where defenders are; will peel back off his block and look for someone to hit in the run game. —Good agility to get outside on screen plays and can be a lead blocker. —Plays with a mean streak and is a true finisher in the run game. —So fast out of his stance that speed rushers can't beat him off the ball. —Natural athlete who will excel in a zone or power-blocking scheme. —Easy movement, agility and burst make us think he'll have no trouble playing left tackle. WEAKNESSES —Very patient but waits too long to shoot his arms and punch; stays in his slide too long. —Plays a little high in the run game. —Two-year starter who is still a little raw in his punch technique and timing. OVERALL Wills is the clear-cut OT1 in the 2020 draft class thanks to his toughness, agility and awareness coming out of Alabama. He has the tools to be an All-Pro-caliber performer at either tackle spot and could even be a world-class guard if needed on the inside. He's one of the cleanest offensive lineman prospects in some time and has room to continue improving once in the NFL. GRADE: 94 PRO COMPARISON: Jason Peters/Dion Dawkins We could look at this like, see you could trade into the top 10 and take the best OT in the draft and still not get your LTOTF. We could also look at this like, how could a player widely considered the best OT to come out in awhile fall this far? This is our chance to get THE Best LT in that draft, a guy we would never be able to trade up for, with very LITTLE risk. I think Wills has to be in the equation. There is huge potential for a home run with this guy. Unless we are able to sign Stanley or Jackson (Unlikely), then I think we have to take a chance with Wills. If Humphries is brought back or even if they sign Robinson, get Wills in here to compete with them and Kingsley. Cleveland has a history of letting good even great O lineman out of the building.
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New World Order Choco Favre Join Date: Jul 2012 Casino cash: $-325235	We're in a tough spot. Early picks have treated us so well lately: Mcduffie, Karlaftis, Rice, Worthy, Bolton, Humphrey. Do you take off a year and trade multiple picks for the second best LT prospect in the draft? Tough call.
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-885503	On the off chance Ronnie Stanley becomes available, free agency in general is gonna be tough. With cap inflation we have some teams with an absurd amount of cash to spend. And are in desperate desperate need of a LT and some of them like Chicago, Washington and New England have young QBs they want to build around. If the draft class is as weak as they say then they’re going to hit this hard.
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02-14-2025, 07:16 AM	#973
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-885503	Full transparency I only casually follow college football. Is josh Simmons not worth a look? An OT whose draft stock plummeted because of an injury seems like something a bottom of the draft team could consider. Is it because we just don’t think he’s going to drop that far? There seem to be mock drafts that think he’ll fall because of small sample size and injury. The other consideration is that failed LTs often become quality linemen elsewhere. If we fail at LT but he becomes even an adequate RT or OG, it’s not a total waste. Something to keep in mind if we think the guy needs to be a stud… or else.
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