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Old 01-16-2020, 09:14 AM  
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Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes
This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.

Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.

There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.

Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.

Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.

When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.

The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.

Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.

Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.

The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.

Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.

Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.

Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.

Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived.
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Old 05-22-2024, 11:34 AM   #961
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Old 06-11-2024, 02:11 PM   #962
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Ravens' Lamar Jackson forfeits $750,000 in workout bonuses, per report
The reigning NFL MVP has been absent for most of OTAs
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Voluntary workouts are voluntary, but they still have value. For some players they hold monetary value, as is the case with reigning NFL MVP Lamar Jackson. The Baltimore Ravens star quarterback has been absent for most of OTAs, and it has cost him $750,000 in workout bonuses, according to a report from Pro Football Talk.

Mike Florio reports that Jackson's contract includes a condition where he must participate in 80% of offseason workouts to earn the $750,000 bonus, excluding of course mandatory minicamp. He has reportedly already missed too many sessions. However, after signing a $260 million deal last April, Jackson will probably be OK.
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Because he had 100 yards rushing and 200 yards passing, I bet those dumb****s that decide MVP will be like "oh damn that's one hell of a week 1, sure is off to a strong start for another MVP. Going to be hard for anyone to top that performance this week"

But did you see those 2 throws to open receivers that could have tied the game? And every time he threw deep it looked like he was just throwing up a prayer, hoping his receiver could just outplay the DB.
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Old 09-06-2024, 01:35 AM   #965
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Lamar had a good game stats wise but that one play he needed to make he threw to shit
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Old 09-06-2024, 01:52 AM   #966
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Anyone else cringe when NBC showed the comparison of the QB’s? They brought up the 2 MVP’s for both guys, while conveniently leaving out Playoff results. Gotta love it when the media ignores pretty important context to push an agenda. They do that on pretty much every subject.
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Old 09-06-2024, 02:45 AM   #967
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Does he work hard to get better? No. He's the same WR playing QB he's always been. He run all year and make some plays then in the playoffs his tired beat-up self will lose again.
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I thought he played OK given the circumstances. Their offensive line is a work in progress and that was apparent very early on. I read somewhere that his average air yards per target in the first half was like 0.8 yards. The gameplan was clearly one to avoid having Lamar sit in a collapsing pocket.

That said, he missed a few deeps shots badly and obviously had a couple big misses on those last couple plays. Plus he was running too damned much.

I honestly am still not sure how he’s able to avoid getting tattooed so consistently. For his first 10 carries or so I don’t think he took any decent hits. As the game wore on, he started getting a little more reckless. By the end, I was wondering if he’d keep getting up after some of those hits.

Probably just some week 1 bravado. He won’t last all year if that continues.
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So his only win against Mahomes is still when CEH fumbled away the game winning drive?

Yeah, this isn’t a rivalry.
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It's not prudent to run 16 times, and furthermore take the hits he took last night. I didn't mind him running when he'd just slip out of bounds. He's fast enough to sustain that. He can't be letting dbs square him up.

15 QBs in the league hit one of the 2 first or second down throws in the redzone. The reality is they hacked the clock management so ****ing hard, that possession needed a running play. That's on Harbitch, but those 2 wide ass open misses he was late on is definitely Lamar. Those are rough looks.
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Lamar’s not better than Joe Burrow or Josh Allen let alone Mahomes. I’d rather have Justin Herbert too - I know he’s not done anything but I also think he’s been coached poorly throughout his career prior to Harbaugh. And probably CJ Stroud as well although he’s still growing. Lamar consistently shrinks in big moments. But I’m sure they’ll smoke the Eagles in December before losing in January….again.
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Lamar gets behind, he does the opposite of shine. Mahomes becomes the sun
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Damn, this is the thread I should have posted the link in.

Ravens fan is arguing about Lamar playing running back:

https://forum.russellstreetreport.co...can-t-be-both&
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Do people really say Lamar is better? Actually I think both teams are fairly even. The deciding factor is the huge chasm between the 2 QB's.
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