New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

The thought of Arizona and Arizona State leaving the Cali schools to go slumming with Gay State, Okie Light and the Rust Shacks is too hilarious to even consider.

Other than the cultural aspect, the amount of money the schools bring to the table is quite similar. Pac 12 and Big 12 are unfortunately very similar now in terms of athletic dept power post OU/TEXAS

[Prison Bitch]

Two P5 schools have no NFL 1st rounders since 2000


1. Indiana
2. Rust Shacks, baby Rust Shacks!

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Two P5 schools have no NFL 1st rounders since 2000


1. Indiana
2. Rust Shacks, baby Rust Shacks!

It’s been a lot longer than 2000 for us lol. Last time we were this good was like the 70’s. Still hasn’t stopped us from having one of the best fan bases. I’ve seen K-State and Mizzou pretty butthurt about us jumping them for bowl games because they wanted the high fan turnout instead. It’s only getting bigger now that we are good, and have a coach who’s turned down tons of jobs already.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by RustShack

It’s been a lot longer than 2000 for us lol. Last time we were this good was like the 70’s. Still hasn’t stopped us from having one of the best fan bases. I’ve seen K-State and Mizzou pretty butthurt about us jumping them for bowl games because they wanted the high fan turnout instead. It’s only getting bigger now that we are good, and have a coach who’s turned down tons of jobs already.

Again, you aren't good, although you might be "big 12" good.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Again, you aren't good, although you might be "big 12" good.

Oh yeah sure sure. Ranked as high as #6 last year, NY6 win over Oregon, beat Oklahoma(again) last year, made the Big12 Championship last year, preseason #7 this year, currently 14 even after a loss to a team with no offense. I’d say we are good. Notoriously bad in September under CMC, but we’ll be fine the rest of the year.

What’s your definition of good? Only the team who wins the national title? Or only the four who make the playoffs?

I didn’t say great, or elite. You’re an idiot if you don’t think Matt Campbell’s Iowa State is good.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by RustShack

Oh yeah sure sure. Ranked as high as #6 last year, NY6 win over Oregon, beat Oklahoma(again) last year, made the Big12 Championship last year, preseason #7 this year, currently 14 even after a loss to a team with no offense. I’d say we are good. Notoriously bad in September under CMC, but we’ll be fine the rest of the year.

What’s your definition of good? Only the team who wins the national title? Or only the four who make the playoffs?

I didn’t say great, or elite. You’re an idiot if you don’t think Matt Campbell’s Iowa State is good.

Why are you talking about last year? You lost to Iowa and should have lost to a rebuilding Northern Iowa. What, specifically, is good about that?

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Why are you talking about last year? You lost to Iowa and should have lost to a rebuilding Northern Iowa. What, specifically, is good about that?

Because we have the same team as last year? And we start off slow every year? And September is irrelevant in December? Keep up kid.

Iowa State lost to Iowa while playing bad and mostly because of turnovers. Turnovers are easier to clean up than not being able to move the ball at all. Iowa is going to struggle in games their defense doesn’t score in.

[RustShack]

But by your definition Ohio State isn’t good right? Played a tight game with Minnesota(lol) then lost to Oregon?

[RustShack]

I really hope Iowa State and Kansas get invited to the B1G in the next few years. I can’t wait to play Iowa at the end of the season instead.

[Mizzou_8541]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Delusional MU fans are the best.

Lol! Enjoy your numerous level 5 violations. Thank god for KState being the flagship institution in the state of Kansas. True leadership and a real AD there.

[KChiefs1]

https://twitter.com/daniellibit/stat...541762048?s=21

https://www.sportico.com/leagues/col...1234640251/amp

If money is power in college sports, then the Southeastern Conference was making its case for intercollegiate supremacy long before its recent poaching of Texas and Oklahoma.

The Birmingham, Ala.-based nonprofit has, over the last 15 years, steadily closed the annual revenue gap with the Indianapolis-headquartered NCAA. In the early 2000s, the SEC earned roughly a quarter of what the NCAA brought in, but in recent years the conference has pocketed almost two-thirds of NCAA revenue totals.

For the tax year between July 2018 and August 2019, the SEC generated $720 million, compared with the $1.12 billion in revenue claimed by the NCAA. The trend line has long suggested that the SEC would eventually overtake the NCAA (and the Big Ten) as the biggest-earning college sports organization in America.

Even before it gained its two Big 12 defectors, the SEC’s new TV deal with ESPN would alone have likely launched it into the NCAA’s 10-figure club by 2024. All this, despite the SEC having far less overhead and fewer liabilities. Last tax year, for example, the SEC employed a workforce less than 10% as large as the NCAA’s; the SEC has also avoided having to pay the mountainous legal and settlement fees that have eaten away at the association’s nest egg.

On the other side of the ledger, the SEC has found a far more diversified stream of revenue. Whereas the NCAA floats its enterprise on the broadcast rights to March Madness, the SEC has, in addition to its TV and radio deals, made steady gains in postseason event revenue and other opportunities. For the 2019 tax year, the SEC earned $210 million in postseason events, compared to just $89 million in 2010.

It’s perhaps no wonder why NCAA president Mark Emmert has recently endorsed the idea of college sports decentralizing and the association ceding much of its governing authority to conferences. He’s been earning about the same in annual compensation as SEC commissioner Greg Sankey—whose job creates far fewer headaches.

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[RustShack]

It would be cool if college football was like any other sport at any level where it had a real governing body and it wasn’t just up to the individual conferences. Like it should be the P5 under one banner. Similar to how the NFL gets paid out of media rights. Sure, you should make more for the more premium slots.

I just hope college football doesn’t collapse after it’s definitely peaked already.

[Prison Bitch]

Lol. If reeruns keep tuning in to see the same few teams dominate and one of them win the title every year, there’s no incentive to improve the sport

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

Lol! Enjoy your numerous level 5 violations. Thank god for KState being the flagship institution in the state of Kansas. True leadership and a real AD there.

Proving my point. Thanks

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by RustShack

It would be cool if college football was like any other sport at any level where it had a real governing body and it wasn’t just up to the individual conferences. Like it should be the P5 under one banner. Similar to how the NFL gets paid out of media rights. Sure, you should make more for the more premium slots.

I just hope college football doesn’t collapse after it’s definitely peaked already.

P4