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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 12-11-2023, 11:43 AM   #9691
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Veach has repeatedly said this is a priority which is why it is so unfathomable that they would actually go into a season with MVS/Skyy/Toney at the top of their WR depth chart.

The Chris Jones contract situation didn't prevent Veach from going out and making Taylor the second highest paid RT in football... he made the strategic decision to not significantly address the WR position and now it is a dumpster fire.
Didn't think of it that way, but you're right. One thing about Veach is he usually goes total gangsta when fixing blatant weaknesses.I think he fixes the WR room in the off season.
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Veach has repeatedly said this is a priority which is why it is so unfathomable that they would actually go into a season with MVS/Skyy/Toney at the top of their WR depth chart.

The Chris Jones contract situation didn't prevent Veach from going out and making Taylor the second highest paid RT in football... he made the strategic decision to not significantly address the WR position and now it is a dumpster fire.
Veach and Andy both thought Toney was a WR1 and Skyy would make a jump.

This isn't just some bad WR. It's historically bad WR play. I don't think anyone thought it would be this bad.
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I really hope that DE is good next season cause he's barely on the field. I really wanted LaPorta to end the 1st round too
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And then you’d be bitching that he didn’t protect Mahomes. Going into the draft with question marks at both tackle spots would be monumentally stupid.
How about just resigning Wylie... at $12 million/year less than they are paying Taylor.
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Veach and Andy both thought Toney was a WR1
The fact that Veach and Andy actually thought Toney would be healthy/available to be a WR1 was such a ridiculously flawed assumption.
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I really hope that DE is good next season cause he's barely on the field. I really wanted LaPorta to end the 1st round too
Me as well. Once Zay was gone.
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Veach and Andy both thought Toney was a WR1 and Skyy would make a jump.

This isn't just some bad WR. It's historically bad WR play. I don't think anyone thought it would be this bad.
I think most probably thought the floor was:

Toney gets hurt and just isn’t available
Moore is like a 400 yard receiver with a few TDs
MVS would be the typical 500-700 yard receiver he’s been for his career

Instead:

Toney has somehow found a way to actually hurt the team by being on the field with bad negative plays.
Moore has 1 big play on the season and pretty much nothing else.
MVS either completely disappears or drops a pass in a big moment. He has 1 good game on the season (which, like Moore, mostly came on 1 play).

It’s crazy that these three all found ways to be worse than the assumed floor, which was pretty low to begin with.
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The fact that Veach and Andy actually thought Toney would be healthy/available to be a WR1 was such a ridiculously flawed assumption.
The weird this is that he’s mostly been available. He’s just been terrible.
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How about just resigning Wylie... at $12 million/year less than they are paying Taylor.
you are reeruned...
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How about just resigning Wylie... at $12 million/year less than they are paying Taylor.
Hate to say it, but this was the way.

They could have used the balance to get Hopkins in here and you have an easy path to repeat.

We overpaid for OT and underpaid for WR.
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Hate to say it, but this was the way.

They could have used the balance to get Hopkins in here and you have an easy path to repeat.

We overpaid for OT and underpaid for WR.
you are reeruned too... Blaine Gabbert would be our starting QB if Whylie had come back...
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Wylie has given up 9 sacks and is one of the 5 worst OL in pressures given up.

Imagine this offense but with Wylie getting obliterated every 3rd down
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you are reeruned too... Blaine Gabbert would be our starting QB if Whylie had come back...
Wylie was really good down the stretch last season, and didn't have 30 penalties.

Patrick has always been able to compensate for one weakness at OT.

What's now clear is he CANNOT compensate for five weaknesses at WR.
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Wylie has given up 9 sacks and is one of the 5 worst OL in pressures given up.

Imagine this offense but with Wylie getting obliterated every 3rd down
A classic case of taking a fish out of water.

Chiefs were always able to scheme around his weaknesses.
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Stick with James, Rice Toney getting the most WR snaps. MVS and Moore need the least. I felt toney even with the mistakes still made positive plays
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