New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I’m not sure that….

BYU, UCF, UC & UH = UT & OU?

That looks like a net loss.

Kinda like MU, CU, NU & TAMU does not equal TCU & WVU.

I’m pretty sure in the grand scheme of things that MU, CU, NU, TAMU, UT & OU >>>>> TCU, WVU, BYU, UCF, UC & UH.

Anyone that would argue otherwise is a complete idiot. It does, however, provide some stability (however temporary) to a completely awful situation. It could also be argued that it is somewhat on par with the PAC.

[ChiTown]

Also, this was pretty funny....

Dear @GoBearcatsMBB @BYUMBB @UHCougarMBK @UCF_MBB - Welcome to the @Big12Conference … one note, @KUHoops is already in the Bonus 😂

— Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) September 10, 2021

[ping2000]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Also, this was pretty funny....

Dear @GoBearcatsMBB @BYUMBB @UHCougarMBK @UCF_MBB - Welcome to the @Big12Conference … one note, @KUHoops is already in the Bonus

— Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) September 10, 2021

Except Gotlieb is a soreloser prick.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Basketball schools will consolidate into a basketball only conference to save money.

Somewhere between B and y yur brain wasn't functioning here!

You should have said something like, Bring your football money! Anything other than what you typed.

[TambaBerry]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Yes, but unlike you, I fully understand what our position was/is in realignment. We were ****ed 9 ways to Sunday when OUT left. But hey, if you want to close your eyes real hard and dream about getting an imaginary invite and joining the B1G, God bless ya and sweet dreams.

As soon as OU, UT get figured out there will be more shuffling. Do you really think the SEC is done adding teams? This is just the beginning. It's why the Big 12 are going after up and coming schools.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I’m not sure that….

BYU, UCF, UC & UH = UT & OU?

That looks like a net loss.

Kinda like MU, CU, NU & TAMU does not equal TCU & WVU.

I’m pretty sure in the grand scheme of things that MU, CU, NU, TAMU, UT & OU >>>>> TCU, WVU, BYU, UCF, UC & UH.

That is going to make for a competitive league from top to bottom once.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

As soon as OU, UT get figured out there will be more shuffling. Do you really think the SEC is done adding teams? This is just the beginning. It's why the Big 12 are going after up and coming schools.

B12 screwed up by not adding 4 more, going to 16 teams

Should have went after USF, Boise State, and whomever else they could pry away, Notre Dame, Colorado, Utah, Memphis ( but only basketball purposes ) Coastal Carolina. Anybody that could pull some football revenue and /or a large basketball revenue with a mediocre football market..

[BWillie]

Is the Sprint Center allowed to serve caffeinated beverages if there is a BYU game?

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

As soon as OU, UT get figured out there will be more shuffling. Do you really think the SEC is done adding teams? This is just the beginning. It's why the Big 12 are going after up and coming schools.

I think the SEC is done for a while, until they can get FSU and Clemson to jump ship from the ACC GoR. That deal goes thru 2036.

I think the B1G will absolutely be on the prowl, but I also think they are looking West toward the PAC - that Conf is pretty vulnerable right now.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

B12 screwed up by not adding 4 more, going to 16 teams

Should have went after USF, Boise State, and whomever else they could pry away, Notre Dame, Colorado, Utah, Memphis ( but only basketball purposes ) Coastal Carolina. Anybody that could pull some football revenue and /or a large basketball revenue with a mediocre football market..

Zero chance they get ND. If the B1G can't get them, the leftovers of the Big 12 surely won't. Not sure if you meant Colorado State as well because I see zero chance the Colorado would rejoin.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by ping2000

Except Gotlieb is a soreloser prick.

He’s wrong anyway. Kevin Queefman used to pitch this canard all the time, then someone in the KU board analyzed like 3 conf seasons of KU games. Found that like 75% of the free throw disparity happened in the final 2 min of the game when opponents purposefully fouled KU to stop the clock.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

The Big 12 extended membership invitations Friday to BYU, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston to join the Power Five league that will be losing Oklahoma and Texas to the Southeastern Conference.

Replacing OK and TX with city schools? Yikes.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

There was a running joke around here years ago... "The Algorithm" to determining whether it was okay for fans to storm.

I've always thought it was a weird flex, whether it's Kansas football or how Kansas BB aren't supposed to ever do it, or i KU fans making fun of KSU fans doing it in the octagon, etc.

One week people are flexing fandom because people in SoCal don't care to show up to sports, then the next week we're flexing because the Kansas fans who did show up had too much fun.

It's pretty simple. Our rivals (or former rivals) will use anything to point and laugh at us. I suppose we do it to them, as well. It's sad that KU football has fallen this far from the Mangino days but this is what we're reduced to doing. /sigh

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Replacing OK and TX with city schools? Yikes.

All 4 of them are > athletic programs than Mizzouche

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Zero chance they get ND. If the B1G can't get them, the leftovers of the Big 12 surely won't. Not sure if you meant Colorado State as well because I see zero chance the Colorado would rejoin.

I knew/know ND will not do it, but be aggressive, show the country that the B12 is here to stay. I agree that B10 can't do it, why the B12? The only reason is , a ticket to the playoffs! They could, for the most part run thru this conference and have their ticket to the playoffs.

Same for Colorado, PAC 12 is vulnerable now. If the B12 got BYU, Boise State and Utah, they would have closer traveling with KU,KSU for budgeting and a chance to win the B12/err B16 for playoff football. Plus to have have an increased recruiting into some more bigger markets than just the West Coast, Orlando, Miami ( USF ) Houston, etc a greater exposure across the country? It's not far fetched to think about!

Now if Colorado did not jump back, sure a Co.State would help maximize the BYU, Boise St., Utah, western part of states of scheduling schools.

Just grabbing big name schools is not enough, there has to have some logistics involved within traveling in schools budgets.

Aggressive! B12 has to get aggressive to get things rolling or else, the the pickings will be gone and no one left to jump ship as conferences will get get creative with figuring out how to keep schools from jumping ship to other conferences.