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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 09-08-2021, 01:21 PM   #9601
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Wasnt KU supposed to do some big renovation about s decade ago? Or was the tacky looking end zone thing the big project?
Really, it’s a bad idea to throw good $ after bad. It’s irresponible, it can go to better uses like charity or scholarships for academics.



Mizzouche wasted like $200M upgrading their stadium and it’s still 1/3 empty on game day, and they lose more than they win.
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Old 09-08-2021, 01:32 PM   #9602
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I read this post 3x, just so I could fully appreciate the total stupidity therein.
We gotta up our football thread post counts.
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Old 09-08-2021, 03:30 PM   #9603
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Basketball schools will consolidate into a basketball only conference to save money.
Because football is a...bad...investment?

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Old 09-08-2021, 03:40 PM   #9604
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Because football is a...bad...investment?

Popularity of football is what makes these TV king, beyond that all the drivers of price are the same, so even if your just a basketball school, you still want to be in a big time conference because its going to get you the most money.
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Old 09-08-2021, 06:41 PM   #9605
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Basketball schools will consolidate into a basketball only conference to save money.
Not true at all, but OK.
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Old 09-09-2021, 06:01 PM   #9606
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Obviously things can change, but it’s sounding like as of now they are planning on the four joining 2023. Plan on it being a 14 team league with Texas and Oklahoma. Then adding more to join when Texas and Oklahoma leave.

Kind of lines up with Amazon being interested in a 14-16 team Big12. My guess is Big12 doesn’t want to go more than 14(and well why would you unless the PAC wants to jump ship).

Also makes it seem like the GoR is going to be harder for Texas and OU to get out of than everyones assumed. Personally I’ve never understood why people think CBS would be fine with paying Texas and Oklahoma a buttload of money for a year or two when ESPN is taking over their media rights.
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Old 09-09-2021, 09:04 PM   #9607
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The conferences are going to all be destroyed because of the new P2W aspect of College football. Money college will probably end up creating their own league.

Division 1 will probably end up with half as many colleges as it has now. KU doesn't have the money to compete with big money colleges. The ivy league will get better and better since recruiter will now be auction day. Highest bidder win the most talent.
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The Ivy League have no interest in playing big time CFB. They stopped doing so in the 1950s. They won't even participate in the FCS playoffs.
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Old 09-09-2021, 09:05 PM   #9608
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They are.
They are if they find a partner to join with.

That is the holdup. Iowa State doesn't bring a new market. Okie Lite isn't a big enough brand or has the academic clout.
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Old 09-09-2021, 09:07 PM   #9609
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USF fans are taking it pretty hard that UCF has left them in the dust.
They should be.

Now when USF was in the Big East, they blocked UCF from joining.

The tables have dramatically shifted.
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They are if they find a partner to join with.

That is the holdup. Iowa State doesn't bring a new market. Okie Lite isn't a big enough brand or has the academic clout.
The ONLY people that are convinced that ku is going to the B1G are The ku Scoopmeister and his legion of tards.
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The ONLY people that are convinced that ku is going to the B1G are The ku Scoopmeister and his legion of tards.
Ok lol you're a ksu fan right
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The Big 12 extended membership invitations Friday to BYU, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston to join the Power Five league that will be losing Oklahoma and Texas to the Southeastern Conference.
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Old 09-10-2021, 08:45 AM   #9613
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Guessing the Big whatever schools will be staying in the big whatever now
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Old 09-10-2021, 09:03 AM   #9614
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The Big 12 extended membership invitations Friday to BYU, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston to join the Power Five league that will be losing Oklahoma and Texas to the Southeastern Conference.

I’m not sure that….

BYU, UCF, UC & UH = UT & OU?

That looks like a net loss.

Kinda like MU, CU, NU & TAMU does not equal TCU & WVU.

I’m pretty sure in the grand scheme of things that MU, CU, NU, TAMU, UT & OU >>>>> TCU, WVU, BYU, UCF, UC & UH.
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Ok lol you're a ksu fan right
Yes, but unlike you, I fully understand what our position was/is in realignment. We were ****ed 9 ways to Sunday when OUT left. But hey, if you want to close your eyes real hard and dream about getting an imaginary invite and joining the B1G, God bless ya and sweet dreams.
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