Star Wars Episode VIII SPOILERS thread

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For all things Episode VIII related info including spoilers.

The release date is now December 15, 2017.

The Official Synopsis from Star Wars.com

“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”









New footage in Japanese Trailer

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[Fish]

BB 9 is clearly evil as hell.

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http://ew.com/movies/2017/08/11/the-...di-rey-family/

The Last Jedi: Rey takes her first steps toward uncovering her family history. Part 7 of EW’s ‘Star Wars’ cover story.

Rey’s family has become the “Rosebud” of Star Wars: Who are they? What’s their significance? How will that revelation shape her destiny?

The mystery was introduced in The Force Awakens when Daisy Ridley’s desert scavenger touched the ancestral Skywalker lightsaber and saw a series of visions, including a starship abandoning a much younger version of herself on the junkyard world of Jakku. Now, The Last Jedi will finally resolve the question that fans have been debating for two years. This article, obviously, won’t spoil anything. The theory I’m holding onto is still this one. But in EW’s interview for our cover story on The Last Jedi, writer and director Rian Johnson did offer his thoughts on a related question: How much does Rey’s past matter — or is this a tangent fans have obsessed over unnecessarily?

“To me, it’s important insofar as it’s important to her,” Johnson says. “And I think it’s important to her in terms of what is her place in all of this? What’s going to define her in this story? She was told in the last movie that the answer’s not in the past; it’s looking forward. But she’s showing up on this island to talk to this hero from the past.” Let’s just pause for a line from Eugene O’Neill’s A Moon For the Misbegotten: “There is no present or future — only the past, happening over and over again — now.” If Rey understands her origin, it can be a map for her future, a guide to avoiding whatever fear or mistakes have come before. In that way, Johnson says Rey does need to know. (And so do we.) “You can be told [‘the answer’s not in the past’], but I think she still has a lingering hope that she’s going to find the thing that’s going to say: This is where you belong. This is where you are. I think she still holds onto the thought that where she comes from will help define where she’s going.”

ONCE WAS LOST

Ridley says Rey will ultimately find the answer — and discover that it doesn’t matter that much. It won’t change who she is, or at least who she wants to be. “You can always look for answers and that doesn’t mean that the rest of your life is so easy. It’s not like, oh, I know who my parents are so now everything falls into shape, especially in the Star Wars world,” the actress says. Anakin Skywalker had a loving mother but became the galactic warlord Darth Vader. Luke and Leia are the children of Vader but have fought tirelessly for good and decency. Ben Solo was the son of Han and Leia, but lost his way and fell into darkness, like his grandfather before. Family gives you the starting point, but the destination is a matter of choice.

Still, Ridley agrees that Rey needs to find out about her lineage, at least so she can stop wondering.

“Yes, it would potentially change her mind, or at least give her a little bit more peace in moving forward. But ultimately what’s coming is coming, and whatever abilities she has are there. So, personally, I think it’s less important than even she may think.” One thing Ridley said to expect from The Last Jedi is that no one falls easily onto the good or bad side. There is always potential to change — for better and for worse. “What’s wonderful is it’s not so cut and dry, who’s good and who’s bad and that’s not me saying, ‘Oh, my God, some people are gonna go bad,'” Ridley says. “There’s always room for bad people to make good decisions and vice versa. Again, that could be nothing to do with your parents and it could be everything to do with your parents.” There’s also another new figure in the Star Wars saga who has uncertain origins, but fans haven’t latched onto theories about him the way they have with Rey.

FINN’S FAMILY MYSTERY

All we know about John Boyega’s ex-stormtrooper Finn is that he was expendable for the First Order, probably less valuable than the white armor he wore into battle. He was a child soldier, taken from wherever he was from and conscripted into their fascist military operation. He didn’t even have a name, just numerals and a number: FN-2187. Will we find out more about Finn’s family? “Yeah, definitely,” Boyega tells EW. “But it’s not explored in depth in Episode VIII. But he definitely has a past that is troubled. … I don’t know how all that’s going to play out.” Sounds like more about Finn may be forthcoming in Episode IX. But the actor suggested that The Last Jedi will explore the character’s recent history. “We will learn more about his past and where he came from, and potentially why he made the decision [to escape] that he made,” Boyega says. “I’m also very curious. The question that needs to be answered is why he decided to leave as a stormtrooper in the first place. We will find out just a little bit more about him.” Even though they are separated for much of the film, Finn and Rey remain on somewhat parallel journeys of self-discovery.

“The big thematic push and pull in the movie is the past and what role the past has in moving us forward into the future,” Johnson says.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Fish

BB 9 is clearly evil as hell.

[Bowser]

I am curious about Rey's lineage. I want to know if it traces back to some Kenobi or Palpatine bloodlines. I can't say I care much for knowing all about Finn's history at this time. The First Order is evil and they do evil shit like stealing babies from poor people, story complete.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I am curious about Rey's lineage. I want to know if it traces back to some Kenobi or Palpatine bloodlines. I can't say I care much for knowing all about Finn's history at this time. The First Order is evil and they do evil shit like stealing babies from poor people, story complete.

Kenobi still makes the most sense, as his voice is heard multiple times during Rey's "Forceback".

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http://ew.com/movies/2017/08/11/star...ren-dark-side/

The Last Jedi: Kylo Ren's humiliation — and other tales from the Star Wars dark side - Part 8 of EW’s ‘Star Wars’ cover story

As we close out EW’s cover story on The Last Jedi, let’s take a trip into the dark side of the galaxy.

Most of the previous stories have focused on the heroes of the Star Wars saga and the new film’s theme about the risks and rewards of meeting those you idolize. Here’s a look at some of the villains, and a tease of what to expect from them when the film opens on Dec. 15.

KYLO REN

The aspiring Sith let his last bit of light slip away when he drove his janky, handmade lightsaber into the heart of his father, Han Solo. But there was no victory for Kylo Ren as he sank into the abyss. Instead, he was humiliated. By a scavenger girl, of all things. "He’s definitely been knocked off base,” says The Last Jedi writer-director Rian Johnson says. “The defeat that he had at the end of The Force Awakens, but even bigger than that, his huge defining act which, spoiler alert, is the murder of his father… that’s the more interesting thing to dive into. How has he dealt with that in his head? Where is he at in terms of that act and what does that mean for him?” Johnson said Ben Solo’s shift to darkness is symbolic of “the treacherous road through adolescence” that Star Wars often explores. “Kylo represents kind of the rebellious anger that you feel during that period. Honestly, sometimes it’s a healthy desire to push away from the place that you know, from the things that you came from. But he obviously does it in an extreme that’s not healthy at all.” He said Kylo and Rey are “two halves of the dark and the light.”

Among their shared interests: She is an expert pilot, and in this film well see him maneuvering his own starship, the TIE Silencer, which is a variation on his grandfather, Darth Vader’s old ship.

HAN SOLO

Yes. He’s back. In a way. Kylo Ren’s murder of Han Solo also makes Rey’s contempt for him much more personal. He’s no longer just a random madman terrorizing the galaxy. Rey has a grudge: He stole from her the father-figure she’d been searching for her whole life. “She just doesn’t understand Kylo,” Daisy Ridley says. “When all she wanted was parents, why would a person who has parents do that? It’s so beyond comprehension, it’s ridiculous. So she has grief for the loss and then there’s anger. To be honest, she couldn’t understand doing something like that – let alone to your parents.” Although his character is no more, Han Solo’s legacy lives on. “Han, the ghost of – well, not literally,” Johnson says, interrupting himself with a laugh. “I don’t want to misguide. I have to be very careful with my words here. But a figurative ghost of Han had to be present throughout this entire film.”

CAPTAIN PHASMA

Those who wanted the silver-armored stormtrooper to get more screen time in The Force Awakens will be getting their wish this time. Gwendoline Christie’s merciless First Order officer Captain Phasma has a more significant role in The Last Jedi. “Gwendoline Christie is one of my favorite people, and you get to see her in action which I think is going to be really fun,” Johnson says. “That character is just so damn cool looking. Like, okay, let’s see what we can do with her. Let’s put her in action and see what happens.” In the trailer, we can see her leading an assault on a Rebel base, and John Boyega promises we’ll see her in a showdown with his ex-stormtrooper Finn. (The two last saw each other when he was stuffing her down a garbage chute into a trash compactor.) The Last Jedi won’t necessarily explore new backstory for Phasma, but her broader tale will be told in two new books: The novel Phasma by Delilah S. Dawson, which delves into how she originated on a hardscrabble planet and sought escape by joining the First Order. (It’s on shelves Sept. 1.) The Marvel comic book Captain Phasma, which reveals how she escaped from that trash compactor on Starkiller base and made her way to the action of The Last Jedi. (The first issue hits Sept. 6.)

CHEWBACCA

Okay, he’s clearly not a villain, but there is darkness surrounding the Wookiee in this film. Chewbacca (played by Joona Suotamo, fully taking over the role from original actor Peter Mayhew) is mourning his best friend, Han Solo, and that grief is not easy to articulate despite his proficiency with roars and groans. We aren’t going to see a depressed Chewie, but we might encounter one who is a little more volatile than usual. Johnson says things will be okay for him. Ultimately. “Chewie’s doing all right. It’s tough. It was obviously a big loss for him, but, you know, he’s Chewie. He’s resilient,” Johnson says. “He’s got broad Wookiee shoulders, and he also has a new mission. He’s got Rey, and she’s someone that Han, to a certain extent, handed the keys to. So I think that that helps.” It could be worse. “If Chewie was just unemployed and sitting at home, things might be a little rougher, but he’s got a task to focus on,” Johnson adds. Also, he’s got some new friends. Or judging by the feather in his mouth here … are they snacks?

MAZ KANATA

Again, this character isn’t a bad guy by any means, but we’ve got some unfortunate news that places her in our Dark Side round-up. There will be less of the little orange sage in this movie, although Lupita Nyong’o’s character still turns up for an important moment in the spotlight. “She has a smaller part in this than she has in The Force Awakens, but it’s a really fun part, and Lupita is so awesome,” Johnson says. “I’m just happy I got to work with her.” Maz has insights into the past, and for a film about history, family connections, and the way the Force shapes destiny, she is bound to deliver important information. Johnson says even he learned something. “This was my first time working with mo-cap characters and working with actors in that way,” he says. “I feel like I got such an incredible education watching Lupita work.”

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

http://ew.com/movies/2017/08/11/the-...di-rey-family/

The Last Jedi: Rey takes her first steps toward uncovering her family history. Part 7 of EW’s ‘Star Wars’ cover story.

Rey’s family has become the “Rosebud” of Star Wars: Who are they? What’s their significance? How will that revelation shape her destiny?

Yay! Episode 5 again! "Rey, I am your father....'s friend. He died a while back."

[Frazod]

I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by bowener

Yay! Episode 5 again! "Rey, I am your father....'s friend. He died a while back."

What would really be lame is Finn ending up as Han's son or grandson.

In the recent Marvel comics, a "dark skinned" woman named Sana claimed to be Han Solo's wife. Finn being related to Lando would be pretty lame, too.

I hope they branch out of the Solo/Skywalker clan, just a bit.

[bowener]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What would really be lame is Finn ending up as Han's son or grandson.

In the recent Marvel comics, a "dark skinned" woman named Sana claimed to be Han Solo's wife. Finn being related to Lando would be pretty lame, too.

I hope they branch out of the Solo/Skywalker clan, just a bit.

Definitely. It would also be a smart creative and business move. Create a new family or clan of heroes and villains so the stories don't get stale. I would love to see a Netflix or HBO series similar to how The Expanse has been done. I'd love to see story lines involving actual politics. In a reality where that many species exist political discussions would be an incredible nightmare of trying to appease so many different needs. Hell... maybe the Empire was all about efficiency and streamlining politics to help the greatest number possible. I would enjoy watching a storyline from the POV of a normal guy in the Empire. Jedis would look like fanatical religious zealots to them I would think.

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**** this thread. OP is too goddamned stupid for Star Wars.