2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[alnorth]

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
(from alnorth)

With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

[DeezNutz]

Someone on the Tweeter explain to ****ing Petro, who generally isn't DM-level dumb, that keeping Myers, even if he's average, thereby not playing Frenchy, DM's illegitimate son, will equal more wins than having Shields in the rotation.

This isn't that ****ing difficult.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Someone on the Tweeter explain to ****ing Petro, who generally isn't DM-level dumb, that keeping Myers, even if he's average, thereby not playing Frenchy, DM's illegitimate son, will equal more wins than having Shields in the rotation.

This isn't that ****ing difficult.

They have. They are.

[Shogun]

@Royals_Report

Hearing that #Royals aren't close to anything at moment. Can always change with a single call, of course.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

They have. They are.

I'm not seeing this statistical breakdown on his Twatter.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Someone on the Tweeter explain to ****ing Petro, who generally isn't DM-level dumb, that keeping Myers, even if he's average, thereby not playing Frenchy, DM's illegitimate son, will equal more wins than having Shields in the rotation.

This isn't that ****ing difficult.

Petro is a F'ing cross-eyed drooling reerun.

Yes, people tend to over-value pitching prospects, but this idiot doesn't seem to get that hitting prospects who succeed in the minors tend to translate VERY reliably to major league success. He seems to think every prospect, hitter or pitcher doesn't matter, is a total lottery ticket who is likely to fail, and should be freely tossed away for any half-assed trade offer that drifts by.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Petro is a F'ing cross-eyed drooling reerun.

Yes, people tend to over-value pitching prospects, but this idiot doesn't seem to get that hitting prospects who succeed in the minors tend to translate VERY reliably to major league success. He seems to think every prospect, hitter or pitcher doesn't matter, is a total lottery ticket who is likely to fail, and should be freely tossed away for any half-assed trade offer that drifts by.

I like Petro, I do. But he's the same dude who was trading Myers for Jurrjens last year.

Literally shaking my head when typing that.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I'm not seeing this statistical breakdown on his Twatter.

The people he follows are making the point.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

The people he follows are making the point.

OK, thanks.

And now we're back to the point that we've spent quite a bit on Santana and Guthrie. Fine. But if these moves prohibit us from overspending for Sanchez, who would be better in isolation than getting both of those lottery tickets, DM has screwed up, yet again.

[AndChiefs]

Per Rotoworld:

Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star believes that the Royals "won't hesitate" to trade Wil Myers for James Shields.
Not only that, but Dutton thinks it "probably would require more than Myers" to get Shields. It's clear that the Royals are dead set on adding a frontline starter, but they would be going overboard here. Dealing arguably the best hitting prospect in the game for two years of a very good but not elite starter wouldn't make much sense for any team, much less one that might not even contend in 2013.

[AndChiefs]

Double Post.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS

Would think #royals would have to give up more than just wil myers for big game james

How would Heyman know that? Shields isn't a Boras client, so it's not like he has any idea what's being discussed.

Wait...I'm going to call it now - Shields to ditch PSI Sports Management and head to Boras before his next round of contract negotiations. Gotta trump up that value so you can drive up the cost of the extension. Afterall, you can't trade Myers and prospects for "Big Game James" and then let him walk as a FA...

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

OK, thanks.

And now we're back to the point that we've spent quite a bit on Santana and Guthrie. Fine. But if these moves prohibit us from overspending for Sanchez, who would be better in isolation than getting both of those lottery tickets, DM has screwed up, yet again.

Which is what I said the minute the Santana details came down.

I can't believe Moore has anyone willing to give him the benefit of the doubt anymore. If he does something, it's almost certainly wrong.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by AndChiefs

Per Rotoworld:

Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star believes that the Royals "won't hesitate" to trade Wil Myers for James Shields.
Not only that, but Dutton thinks it "probably would require more than Myers" to get Shields. It's clear that the Royals are dead set on adding a frontline starter, but they would be going overboard here. Dealing arguably the best hitting prospect in the game for two years of a very good but not elite starter wouldn't make much sense for any team, much less one that might not even contend in 2013.

This is, clearly, a dumbass move.

Either Dutton is a dumbass with no good sources, or DM is.

[Nightfyre]

Dealing Wil Myers would break the back of the Royals fanbase, imo. There would be blood curdling screams and complete apathy afterwards.

[SPchief]

Dutton has sources, but he's somewhat of a n00b on the twatter(thanks fax) I'm thinking he's towing the line for the star and trolling everyone to get reads.