QB Impressions - Page 63

Direckshun · 01-03-2017, 12:25 AM

First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight.

DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
6'4", 230 lbs
26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards

I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
6'3", 220 lbs
30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards

Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.

Quesadilla Joe · 02-02-2018, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

You mean like it drove down the price for Alex Smith?

Yeah, get the **** out of here with that shit.

The Redskins don't have a top 6 pick, and $23.5M per year is actually a pretty good deal for the leagues highest rated passer.

Chris Meck · 02-04-2018, 12:58 PM

Nobody is going to be counting on a rookie QB. You roll the dice and draft them, sure, but you don't ASSUME they're going to be a quality starter day one. People's livelihood is on the line. You don't take a chance like that.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-04-2018, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

The Redskins don't have a top 6 pick, and $23.5M per year is actually a pretty good deal for the leagues highest rated passer.

Great take, Tigger.

**The Franchise** · 02-21-2018, 08:38 AM

NFL Media's Lance Zierlein compared Wyoming QB Josh Allen to former Washington QB Jake Locker.
This is a comp that we have heard a few times before and it's one that figures to continue to circulate as we head into the spring. Writes Zierlein, "Allen can make some truly special throws, but his ability to improve the mental part of his game will determine whether he's a good NFL starter or just another big, strong-armed guy." He additionally touches on the 6-foot-4, 237-pounder's supporting cast (or lack thereof) at Wyoming, long one of the touchstone arguments in Allen's favor among the quarterback's defenders. Zierlein acknowledges that Cowboy wideouts did, indeed, struggle to gain separation last season, but also notes that "there were plenty of times where [Allen's] lack of anticipation and post-snap plan did him in."

Chiefnj2 · 02-27-2018, 12:10 PM

NFL Draft Tracker QB Grades. I will list this year and last year's class just to piss people off.

Darnold 7.1
Trubisky 6.3
Rosen 6.1
Mayfield 6.0
Jackson 6.0
Watson 5.9
Allen 5.9
Rudolph 5.9

and last but not least ....

Mahomes 5.8

staylor26 · 02-27-2018, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

NFL Draft Tracker QB Grades. I will list this year and last year's class just to piss people off.

Darnold 7.1
Trubisky 6.3
Rosen 6.1
Mayfield 6.0
Jackson 6.0
Watson 5.9
Allen 5.9
Rudolph 5.9

and last but not least ....

Mahomes 5.8

Good thing that means absolutely nothing

**RealSNR** · 02-27-2018, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Good thing that means absolutely nothing

There was one scouting report on Mahomes I read where it quoted some anonymous GM who said something like, "Probably 75% of front office guys in the NFL have no clue what to do with this player." That's pretty accurate, I think.

We love Mahomes and can see a ton of evidence that he's going to be the next great QB in this league, but I also recognize that Mahomes could have been drafted by some shit-chucking Jeff Fisher ape and would have struggled mightily.

Beef Supreme · 03-01-2018, 01:25 PM

Almost time for the "hand size and wonderlic" masturbation. Which would also be a good name for a porno.

DRM08 · 03-02-2018, 10:41 PM

Seems like pretty big exaggeration here...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-ball-90-yards

90 yards? I have seen video of him throw it 77 yards. That's a big difference. Strongly doubt the velocity number that this guy is claiming too. 70 mph? The Combine record is 60 mph.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAc-yNX8MYk

KChiefs1 · 03-02-2018, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

NFL Media's Lance Zierlein compared Wyoming QB Josh Allen to former Washington QB Jake Locker.
This is a comp that we have heard a few times before and it's one that figures to continue to circulate as we head into the spring. Writes Zierlein, "Allen can make some truly special throws, but his ability to improve the mental part of his game will determine whether he's a good NFL starter or just another big, strong-armed guy." He additionally touches on the 6-foot-4, 237-pounder's supporting cast (or lack thereof) at Wyoming, long one of the touchstone arguments in Allen's favor among the quarterback's defenders. Zierlein acknowledges that Cowboy wideouts did, indeed, struggle to gain separation last season, but also notes that "there were plenty of times where [Allen's] lack of anticipation and post-snap plan did him in."

Mike Mayock compares Josh Allen to Jamarcus Russell like that's a compliment.

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-03-2018, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Mike Mayock compares Josh Allen to Jamarcus Russell like that's a compliment.

Mayock said Allen's arm strength is comparable to Russell

Chiefshrink · 03-03-2018, 03:46 PM

Started reading from the beginning of this thread everyone's thoughts and opinions and just started

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Chiefshrink · 03-03-2018, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Its been pretty known that Dorsey likes Mayfield.

Could see Barkley or Chubb at 1 and Mayfield at 4.

After Dorsey hitting on Kareem Hunt no way he does not take Barkeley with his first pick. Barkeley is a stronger faster Elliot. Barkeley parallels Bo Jackson with Jackson being slightly faster on the top end.

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-08-2018, 09:38 PM

http://walterfootball.com/combine2018QB.php

Josh Allen's velocity was clocked at 62 MPH

Mayfield's was 60 MPH

Rosen's was 59 MPH

Lamar Jackson's was 49 MPH

NJChiefsFan · 03-10-2018, 06:36 PM

Knowmo not believing in mahomes was a guarantee, no matter how he looked week 17. And who wants him to believe anyway. Only going to make it more fun watching his hopes dwindle slowly over time.

01-03-2017, 12:25 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2433447	QB Impressions First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight. DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame 6'4", 230 lbs 26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence. Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina 6'3", 220 lbs 30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.
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02-04-2018, 12:58 PM	#932
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-645090	Nobody is going to be counting on a rookie QB. You roll the dice and draft them, sure, but you don't ASSUME they're going to be a quality starter day one. People's livelihood is on the line. You don't take a chance like that.
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02-21-2018, 08:38 AM	#934
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2425047	NFL Media's Lance Zierlein compared Wyoming QB Josh Allen to former Washington QB Jake Locker. This is a comp that we have heard a few times before and it's one that figures to continue to circulate as we head into the spring. Writes Zierlein, "Allen can make some truly special throws, but his ability to improve the mental part of his game will determine whether he's a good NFL starter or just another big, strong-armed guy." He additionally touches on the 6-foot-4, 237-pounder's supporting cast (or lack thereof) at Wyoming, long one of the touchstone arguments in Allen's favor among the quarterback's defenders. Zierlein acknowledges that Cowboy wideouts did, indeed, struggle to gain separation last season, but also notes that "there were plenty of times where [Allen's] lack of anticipation and post-snap plan did him in."
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02-27-2018, 12:10 PM	#935
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6804388	NFL Draft Tracker QB Grades. I will list this year and last year's class just to piss people off. Darnold 7.1 Trubisky 6.3 Rosen 6.1 Mayfield 6.0 Jackson 6.0 Watson 5.9 Allen 5.9 Rudolph 5.9 and last but not least .... Mahomes 5.8 __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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03-02-2018, 10:41 PM	#939
DRM08 In Search of a Life Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Texas Casino cash: $-429600	Seems like pretty big exaggeration here... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-ball-90-yards 90 yards? I have seen video of him throw it 77 yards. That's a big difference. Strongly doubt the velocity number that this guy is claiming too. 70 mph? The Combine record is 60 mph. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAc-yNX8MYk
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03-08-2018, 09:38 PM	#944
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2267187	http://walterfootball.com/combine2018QB.php Josh Allen's velocity was clocked at 62 MPH Mayfield's was 60 MPH Rosen's was 59 MPH Lamar Jackson's was 49 MPH __________________ Last edited by Tribal Warfare; 03-09-2018 at 12:29 AM..
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03-10-2018, 06:36 PM	#945
NJChiefsFan I've Made a Huge Mistake Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NJ Casino cash: $4540423	Knowmo not believing in mahomes was a guarantee, no matter how he looked week 17. And who wants him to believe anyway. Only going to make it more fun watching his hopes dwindle slowly over time.
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