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Old 04-29-2024, 01:11 PM   #931
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Our 20+ mph plays/players on offense was horrendous last year.

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Old 04-29-2024, 01:13 PM   #932
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Giving things a charitable reading, for certain coaches that's absolutely what he'd have to be.

We'll need to come up with some tricks to deal with the lack of play strength. It's a thing. A fairly significant one. He CAN be bodied off.

So we'll have to come up with motion, route combos and usage patters that really discourage/prevent teams from trying to get physical with him.

Not every team has a coach that can do that as well as ours can. So if you're viewing the guy in a vacuum, I could see reaching that conclusion.

But here? Well, we have a better shot than most at getting everything out of him. Reid's a wizard at motion, route combos and establishing/breaking tendencies.
Exactly. Reid's scheming allowed Hardman to be mildly productive here, and he couldn't even get on the field in NY. And Worthy is better than Hardman. Worthy's floor is Hardman+
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Old 04-29-2024, 01:17 PM   #933
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Now that I'm 100% an insane FF nut, I've been seeking out videos on Worthy...it's kind of crazy, a lot of em are basically saying yeah his value is skyrocketing and he's a 20-25 WR right now and has a chance to go in the mid rounds in a lot of drafts.

I am highly, highly fascinated to see how he projects out and where he goes in Fantasy.

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Old 04-29-2024, 01:19 PM   #934
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I saw what you posted and actually would prefer he not do that in the NFL.

Even if he beefs up to like 175 or something, he’s still in the bottom 5 percentile for weight in the league. He’s got no business trying to bully guys out there.
He had no business trying to do it as a true freshman at Texas but he sure did lol! ...en route to leading the team in recs(62), yards (981), and td's (12).

Understand, I'm not equating the leap from HS to College to the College/Pro transition. I'm just pointing out that Worthy simply won't care either way unless Reid pulls him aside and checks him on it.
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Old 04-29-2024, 01:22 PM   #935
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He turned 21 on Saturday... Still super young.
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Now that I'm 100% an insane FF nut, I've been seeking out videos on Worthy...it's kind of crazy, a lot of em are basically saying yeah his value is skyrocketing and he's a 20-25 WR right now and has a chance to go in the mid rounds in a lot of drafts.

I am highly, highly fascinated to see how he projects out and where he goes in Fantasy.

In dynasty he's the #6 overall rookie including QBs

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Old 04-29-2024, 02:25 PM   #936
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Now that I'm 100% an insane FF nut, I've been seeking out videos on Worthy...it's kind of crazy, a lot of em are basically saying yeah his value is skyrocketing and he's a 20-25 WR right now and has a chance to go in the mid rounds in a lot of drafts.

I am highly, highly fascinated to see how he projects out and where he goes in Fantasy.

Depends. My guess is he will be overdrafted in redraft.

The only Chiefs I would consider targeting in redraft are Mahomes, Kelce, and Pacheco.
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Old 04-29-2024, 02:53 PM   #937
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Depends. My guess is he will be overdrafted in redraft.

The only Chiefs I would consider targeting in redraft are Mahomes, Kelce, and Pacheco.
At the end of the season, I thought Rice was a top 20 WR with top 10 potential.

Then KC signed Brown, Rice decided to definitely not go street racing while definitely not driving under the influence, and KC take a first round WR...
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At the end of the season, I thought Rice was a top 20 WR with top 10 potential.

Then KC signed Brown, Rice decided to definitely not go street racing while definitely not driving under the influence, and KC take a first round WR...
Yeah, Rice will not get that amount of volume again.

Could be a much worse fantasy player but a much better real NFL player though.
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Old 04-29-2024, 11:24 PM   #939
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Here are the measurements for 4 very successful, or up & coming receivers, mixed in with Xavier Worthy's measurements. There really isn't much of a significant difference (although one did weigh about 10 extra pounds) and as far as I know, none of them have had issues with injuries in the NFL.

5'10”
169 lbs
29 Ύ” Arms
9 ⅜” Hands

6'0”
170 lbs
31 ⅛” Arms
9 Ό” Hands

5'11”
173 lbs
30 ⅞” Arms
8 Ύ” Hands

5'11”
165 lbs
31 ⅛” Arms
8 Ύ” Hands

5'10”
182 lbs
30” Arms
8 ⅜” Hands

Those other 4 players are:

DeSean Jackson
DeVonta Smith
Jordan Addison
Tyler Lockett

People need to move off of automatically having concerns about his durability before he has even had a single round of NFL conditioning and training. And yeah, I think it's different in the NFL, even from what it is at Power 5 schools.

I feel like they will get him to like 172-175, which won't slow him down much, and will give him just a few extra pounds of muscle. No, he isn't Tyreek Hill, but I think we all know Hill is one of one. But, these other receivers have proven, and are currently proving, that players this size can be very successful.

Holy shit, I cannot effing wait for training camp and the season to start. This offense is going to be so much fun to watch.
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Here are the measurements for 4 very successful, or up & coming receivers, mixed in with Xavier Worthy's measurements. There really isn't much of a significant difference (although one did weigh about 10 extra pounds) and as far as I know, none of them have had issues with injuries in the NFL.

5'10”
169 lbs
29 Ύ” Arms
9 ⅜” Hands

6'0”
170 lbs
31 ⅛” Arms
9 Ό” Hands

5'11”
173 lbs
30 ⅞” Arms
8 Ύ” Hands

5'11”
165 lbs
31 ⅛” Arms
8 Ύ” Hands

5'10”
182 lbs
30” Arms
8 ⅜” Hands

Those other 4 players are:

DeSean Jackson
DeVonta Smith
Jordan Addison
Tyler Lockett

People need to move off of automatically having concerns about his durability before he has even had a single round of NFL conditioning and training. And yeah, I think it's different in the NFL, even from what it is at Power 5 schools.

I feel like they will get him to like 172-175, which won't slow him down much, and will give him just a few extra pounds of muscle. No, he isn't Tyreek Hill, but I think we all know Hill is one of one. But, these other receivers have proven, and are currently proving, that players this size can be very successful.

Holy shit, I cannot effing wait for training camp and the season to start. This offense is going to be so much fun to watch.
Here’s another one:

HEIGHT 5’ 9 1/2’’
WEIGHT 183 lbs
ARM 32’’
HAND 8 1/2”

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Old 04-30-2024, 07:38 AM   #942
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I thought about adding him to the comparison, but he is not even 5'9", and he got hurt, right? That didn't fit with my narrative
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I thought about adding him to the comparison, but he is not even 5'9", and he got hurt, right? That didn't fit with my narrative
He got hurt because his stupid coach tried to use him as a blocking fullback up the middle on a goal line play.
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If this were 1968 we should be concerned with his height and weight. With the way the rules are slanted towards offense, his size (especially weight) will be a non factor.
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Now that I'm 100% an insane FF nut, I've been seeking out videos on Worthy...it's kind of crazy, a lot of em are basically saying yeah his value is skyrocketing and he's a 20-25 WR right now and has a chance to go in the mid rounds in a lot of drafts.

I am highly, highly fascinated to see how he projects out and where he goes in Fantasy.
He will get the Ceh treatment and get over valued if I had to guess.
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