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Old 04-28-2023, 06:41 PM  
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Old 05-09-2023, 10:57 AM   #931
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It wasn't a knock on anyone else. It's rookie freaking mini-camp.

But it's always nice when the early pick whom you'd hope would stand out does just that because we're gonna need his production.
We might. We might not.

If Toney is healthy, MVS finds more chemistry with Pat, Moore takes a step forward and James just stays who he is, that's a solid 4-deep WR corps and combined with Kelce can support a 5k yard season.

Time will tell...
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:00 AM   #932
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We might. We might not.

If Toney is healthy, MVS finds more chemistry with Pat, Moore takes a step forward and James just stays who he is, that's a solid 4-deep WR corps and combined with Kelce can support a 5k yard season.

Time will tell...
I don't believe in a world where things go that smoothly and I'm super excited to give Mahomes a guy with Rice's skillset to play with.

But yes, it will be interesting.
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:01 AM   #933
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We might. We might not.

If Toney is healthy, MVS finds more chemistry with Pat, Moore takes a step forward and James just stays who he is, that's a solid 4-deep WR corps and combined with Kelce can support a 5k yard season.

Time will tell...
MVS is MVS he never developed any chemistry with Rodgers either, he just is who he is.
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:06 AM   #934
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MVS is MVS he never developed any chemistry with Rodgers either, he just is who he is.
Wut? He developed some pretty damn fast during the AFC Championship when we really needed a WR to step up and Mahomes pointed right at him for facilitating one of the downfield bombs that ended up being key.
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:09 AM   #935
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Wut? He developed some pretty damn fast during the AFC Championship when we really needed a WR to step up and Mahomes pointed right at him for facilitating one of the downfield bombs that ended up being key.
He's extremely inconsistent though...like you'll throw that out and then he cost us a big play in the SB by turning the wrong way on a pass.
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Old 05-09-2023, 11:12 AM   #936
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I think he's gonna be awfully good. Not a superstar, just a damn steady player for a long time.
A steady, long term, productive player for the Chiefs will inevitably be a superstar.
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He's extremely inconsistent though...like you'll throw that out and then he cost us a big play in the SB by turning the wrong way on a pass.
That right there is why Rodgers never did develop a rapport with him. Because he'll hold one mistake over his head in perpetuity. Mahomes is the opposite, and let's not single out MVS as the only guy. Guys like Hardman and Hill ****ed up plenty of times, and Mahomes/Reid make it a point to get their confidence back up, not abandon them at the first sign of trouble.
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Old 05-09-2023, 12:18 PM   #938
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That right there is why Rodgers never did develop a rapport with him. Because he'll hold one mistake over his head in perpetuity. Mahomes is the opposite, and let's not single out MVS as the only guy. Guys like Hardman and Hill ****ed up plenty of times, and Mahomes/Reid make it a point to get their confidence back up, not abandon them at the first sign of trouble.
Sorry, but that's just not the case.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...V/ValdMa00.htm

That's MVS' career stats both at GB and with KC. Receptions/game (2.1/2.5), yards/game (36.5/40.4), yards/tgt (8.7yds/8.5yds) and catch rate (49.8%/51.9%) are all pretty much the same.

MVS is what he is. he might have a little bump statistically this season because Andy is Andy and Mahomes is Mahomes, but MVS wasn't held back by Rodgers.

The only metric that probably will show a significant bump is going to be 1st downs (20.5/32), but that's more of an Andy's offensive scheme vs. LaFleur's than anything else.

At the end of the day, MVS is going to catch about half the balls thrown at him, for about 40 yds/game, for an average of about 16+yds/cth.
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Old 05-09-2023, 12:32 PM   #939
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MVS is MVS he never developed any chemistry with Rodgers either, he just is who he is.
Looked like he had some chemistry in the win against CIN.
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Looked like he had some chemistry in the win against CIN.
He's more deserving than a dozen guys in the Ring of Honor on the basis of that game alone.

Guy's performance made the Super Bowl possible. Without him stepping up the way he did, we're 2 fancy trophies poorer.

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Old 05-09-2023, 12:38 PM   #941
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Looked like he had some chemistry in the win against CIN.
It's one game, he'd do that in GB also where he'd have a big game then just go back to being MVS for 6 weeks.

At this point the dude is who he is.
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Old 05-09-2023, 12:41 PM   #942
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It's one game, he'd do that in GB also where he'd have a big game then just go back to being MVS for 6 weeks.

At this point the dude is who he is.
In this offense, that's fine. Pat has repeatedly said it will be a different guy each week. Not sure why we shouldn't believe him.
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MVS is MVS he never developed any chemistry with Rodgers either, he just is who he is.
I'm genuinely curious as to why you are such an ardent defender of Aaron Rodgers. Every issue that has been brought up regarding him you seem to believe him to be faultless in any of it. It's kind of odd that all this negativity surrounds him if none of it is generated by him don't you think?
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Wut? He developed some pretty damn fast during the AFC Championship when we really needed a WR to step up and Mahomes pointed right at him for facilitating one of the downfield bombs that ended up being key.
100%, and some people in here don’t give him the credit he deserves for that. We wouldn’t have made it to the SB without MVS playing his ass off vs the Bengals.
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