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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 08-07-2021, 12:49 PM   #9361
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Old 08-07-2021, 12:54 PM   #9362
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The MLB blackout policy is perhaps the worst long term idea I can think of that a major corporate entity is running with today. Hardly any young people can watch the game, I'll never understand how detached the owners must be to roll with that.
A bigger problem is that kids don't play baseball /stickball / wiffleball.

Basketball is the only American sport insulated from that problem since it's so incredibly cheap to take up and 'only' takes one competitor and one backboard/rim to play.
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Old 08-07-2021, 01:00 PM   #9363
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Soccer is also cheap and available. Hell you don't even need the hoop just the ball
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Old 08-07-2021, 10:24 PM   #9364
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A bigger problem is that kids don't play baseball /stickball / wiffleball.

Basketball is the only American sport insulated from that problem since it's so incredibly cheap to take up and 'only' takes one competitor and one backboard/rim to play.
There is truth to this, but even my kids who play baseball have no interest in the professional game.
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Old 08-07-2021, 10:42 PM   #9365
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Too much troll. Hits roo close to home. As long as we land in the B1G or ACC all is well tho.
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Old 08-07-2021, 11:17 PM   #9366
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Unfortunately every generation cares less and less about sports. They all gravitate more to video games, pop culture, and music/art. Generation Z really, really does not give a shit about sports compared to my generation.
I can attest to this. I've taught Middle School for 20 years. During my first year KU lost to Syracuse in the National Championship game. I live in PA. Not close enough to upstate New York and of course KU to make those kids care. They still left an orange on my desk the next day at school. Sports mattered to them.

For years kids would give me shit when any of my teams would lose any game. Because it mattered to them.

After we lost to the Patriots in the AFCCG at home, I braced myself for the typical "CHIEFS SUCK DURRRR" unimaginative nonsense and...nothing. It's like I was invisible. No one said a word. It was great, but also sad because the time had come when sports didn't matter to kids.

Used to be a lot of kids wearing Phillies, Yankees, Penn State, Eagles, and Steelers gear with a few Giants fans mixed in and the typical Patriots and Broncos front runners. Now I still see Steelers and Penn State but not nearly at the same high frequency.

They really only care about instagram, snapchat, youtube, and gaming.
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Old 08-08-2021, 05:37 AM   #9367
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I can attest to this. I've taught Middle School for 20 years. During my first year KU lost to Syracuse in the National Championship game. I live in PA. Not close enough to upstate New York and of course KU to make those kids care. They still left an orange on my desk the next day at school. Sports mattered to them.

For years kids would give me shit when any of my teams would lose any game. Because it mattered to them.

After we lost to the Patriots in the AFCCG at home, I braced myself for the typical "CHIEFS SUCK DURRRR" unimaginative nonsense and...nothing. It's like I was invisible. No one said a word. It was great, but also sad because the time had come when sports didn't matter to kids.

Used to be a lot of kids wearing Phillies, Yankees, Penn State, Eagles, and Steelers gear with a few Giants fans mixed in and the typical Patriots and Broncos front runners. Now I still see Steelers and Penn State but not nearly at the same high frequency.

They really only care about instagram, snapchat, youtube, and gaming.
I am a retail manager and the younger kids I have working for me don't care much about sports except for the Chiefs (and that is mainly because of Mahomes) and most of them go to KU. You can add Marvel movies to the list of things they care about.
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Old 08-08-2021, 05:52 AM   #9368
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One of the other factors could be that more parents shy away from encouraging their kids from participating in things that have the "win/lose" outcome. No one wants to hurt their kids psyche by having someone tell them they lost and need to get better.
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Old 08-08-2021, 12:51 PM   #9369
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Too much troll. Hits roo close to home. As long as we land in the B1G or ACC all is well tho.
Humor is important, even self deprecating humor. Besides there’s nothing we can do to change things anyway. Plus, if the Big MAC backfllls with a few schools like BYU or Cinci, hoops isn’t really affected anyway.

Obv the rest of the league is FB centered and really hurt by this. Esp if we can’t keep the playoff auto bid
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Old 08-08-2021, 03:36 PM   #9373
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Her job is to raise money and hire his replacement in a few years.

CunzNO sucks.
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