Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 623

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

lawrenceRaider · 08-06-2021, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Just how obsessed are you? Rams fan is a Kentucky fan, not Mizzou.

Why in the hell would Kentucky fan care about this thread?

Besides, it's always fun to jab at Mizzou fans. They are very touchy about their lack of any substantive success in athletics.

**TribalElder** · 08-06-2021, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Why in the hell would Kentucky fan care about this thread?

Besides, it's always fun to jab at Mizzou fans. They are very touchy about their lack of any substantive success in athletics.

You know Kentucky is in the SEC right?

lawrenceRaider · 08-06-2021, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

You know Kentucky is in the SEC right?

So they have a say in how KU and the rest of the Big(now)8 end up?

ChiefsCountry · 08-06-2021, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

So they have a say in how KU and the rest of the Big(now)8 end up?

The thread is about all the college realignment not just KU.

lawrenceRaider · 08-06-2021, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The thread is about all the college realignment not just KU.

Rams Fan was making comments about KU, not just college realignment.

Erroneous ones at that.

Prison Bitch · 08-06-2021, 10:43 AM

Nobody would leave the SEC. so the other 3 leagues:

1. BIG has the highest per team payout $54m.
2. PAC is on a geographic island
3. ACC Locked In TV deal until 2036

So those leagues really don’t have many (any?) options. KU hoops is the only premier brand out there but only the BIG makes any sense but KU won’t clear the $54m avg payout threshold. The BIG can’t poach the ACC for 15 more years and I doubt they do some massive weird merger with the PAC.

baitism · 08-06-2021, 10:53 AM

KU's problem is cbball is a deteriorating product and has been so for the last decade. Ratings have tanked and I'm not sure anyone outside of a few bball hotbeds even watches it anymore.

Rams Fan · 08-06-2021, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Why in the hell would Kentucky fan care about this thread?

Besides, it's always fun to jab at Mizzou fans. They are very touchy about their lack of any substantive success in athletics.

Kentucky is in the SEC.

Prison Bitch · 08-06-2021, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by baitism

KU's problem is cbball is a deteriorating product and has been so for the last decade. Ratings have tanked and I'm not sure anyone outside of a few bball hotbeds even watches it anymore.

Dumb. Every sport has seen ratings tumble incl college FB. The Olympics crashed 45% from last time. Even The Shield took a 7% dive last year.

Is every sport a “deteriorating product” or is there something else happening?

Rams Fan · 08-06-2021, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Dumb. Every sport has seen ratings tumble incl college FB. The Olympics crashed 45% from last time. Even The Shield took a 7% dive last year.

Is every sport a “deteriorating product” or is there something else happening?

I think we can unanimously agree MLB is unwatchable on TV in its current state.

Prison Bitch · 08-06-2021, 12:10 PM

People are “sports’d out”. Too many games too many teams via expansion. Being on TV back in the 80s or 90s was a big deal.

Also people prob worn out by Covid. Realizing sports isn’t that crucial. The blatant money grabs are a turnoff. Also, when lockdowns started people realized they could live without sports anyway.

Discuss Thrower · 08-06-2021, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I think we can unanimously agree MLB is unwatchable on TV in its current state.

As opposed to watching MLB games in person?

Rams Fan · 08-06-2021, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

As opposed to watching MLB games in person?

I have no problem with sitting and watching a MLB game in person.

On TV, I’m disinterested

Chiefspants · 08-06-2021, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

People are “sports’d out”. Too many games too many teams via expansion. Being on TV back in the 80s or 90s was a big deal.

Also people prob worn out by Covid. Realizing sports isn’t that crucial. The blatant money grabs are a turnoff. Also, when lockdowns started people realized they could live without sports anyway.

Yeah. I can't disagree with any of this.

**Bearcat** · 08-06-2021, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

People are “sports’d out”. Too many games too many teams via expansion. Being on TV back in the 80s or 90s was a big deal.

Also people prob worn out by Covid. Realizing sports isn’t that crucial. The blatant money grabs are a turnoff. Also, when lockdowns started people realized they could live without sports anyway.

And providers were already losing viewers by the droves pre-Covid and obviously the past year just escalated that.... and so casual fans are driven away because of overall cost and going to cheaper alternatives that mostly don't involve sports.... and for good measure, alienate your hard core fans with add in-game commercials, pre/post games that are mostly commercials, almost no content/build up to the actual games, constant disputes and channels disappearing (thanks, Dish

), etc.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $766966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	Nobody would leave the SEC. so the other 3 leagues: 1. BIG has the highest per team payout $54m. 2. PAC is on a geographic island 3. ACC Locked In TV deal until 2036 So those leagues really don’t have many (any?) options. KU hoops is the only premier brand out there but only the BIG makes any sense but KU won’t clear the $54m avg payout threshold. The BIG can’t poach the ACC for 15 more years and I doubt they do some massive weird merger with the PAC.
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baitism Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Overland Park, KS Casino cash: $4309551	KU's problem is cbball is a deteriorating product and has been so for the last decade. Ratings have tanked and I'm not sure anyone outside of a few bball hotbeds even watches it anymore.
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Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	People are “sports’d out”. Too many games too many teams via expansion. Being on TV back in the 80s or 90s was a big deal. Also people prob worn out by Covid. Realizing sports isn’t that crucial. The blatant money grabs are a turnoff. Also, when lockdowns started people realized they could live without sports anyway.
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