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Old 12-10-2017, 02:10 PM  
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Derek Carr ****ing sucks
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Old 05-25-2021, 10:36 AM   #916
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DC caught some teams off guard last year throwing downfield much more than previous years. Once again though the league and film caught up by mid season and the team faded again. Carr will be just fine when all is well around him and he has time but if he gets punched in the mouth he turns into a puddle of piss
Wrong.. he'll be fine if he has a competent defense. Patrick is an outlier of elite talent, no QB would be successful with what the raiders have had in terms of defensive talent/scheme
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Old 05-25-2021, 10:54 AM   #917
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Wrong.. he'll be fine if he has a competent defense. Patrick is an outlier of elite talent, no QB would be successful with what the raiders have had in terms of defensive talent/scheme
Toss in the make shift OL due to injuries for most of the year and Carr had an amazing season.

Carr would be viewed very differently if the Raiders had even the 20th ranked defense on average for his career. His best D was 21st and the team went 12-4.
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Old 05-25-2021, 11:09 AM   #918
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Wrong.. he'll be fine if he has a competent defense. Patrick is an outlier of elite talent, no QB would be successful with what the raiders have had in terms of defensive talent/scheme
You may be correct. Carr may well be "fine" with an elite defense. Kinda like the old niners with Alex Smith fine. They stayed in every game because of an elite defense so an average offense can be carried to the playoffs. I just think Carrs ceiling is only slightly better than mediocre and he will never be able to lift a team by elevating those around him like the elite QBs do. Yes the Raiders need a defensive enema.....I get that. However if they can get better at QB, they should try every chance they get. Until he proves otherwise, when the going gets tough, Carr goes fetal
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Toss in the make shift OL due to injuries for most of the year and Carr had an amazing season.

Carr would be viewed very differently if the Raiders had even the 20th ranked defense on average for his career. His best D was 21st and the team went 12-4.
Carr leads the NFL for never ending excuses too.
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Old 05-25-2021, 12:36 PM   #920
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Another year, another bunch of people saying why the Raiders (and the Chargers for that matter) are secretly super good and then KC goes on to win a sixth straight AFCW.






If Rodgers goes to Denver that will be the first time I've even come close to worrying
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Old 05-25-2021, 12:42 PM   #921
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When Derrick Carr and Daniel Jones are on your list as the top 2 deep passers, and Mahomes doesn't even make your top 10, that's a huge ****ing red flag that you need to reevaluate your metrics.
Mahomes' deep ball still needs work, IMO.
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Old 05-25-2021, 12:44 PM   #922
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Mahomes' deep ball still needs work, IMO.
Maybe one day he can be as great as Daniel Jones.
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When Derrick Carr and Daniel Jones are on your list as the top 2 deep passers, and Mahomes doesn't even make your top 10, that's a huge ****ing red flag that you need to reevaluate your metrics.

If i did this exercise and that were my results i'd be too embarrassed to even post it.

I'd toss that shit in the trash and move on to some other fluff piece. Publish that instead.
To be fair, watching the actual games, Carr and Jones both were very efficient on deep balls last year. Without any context, I agree, it's a shit list. But within the context of what they're actually measuring, it makes total sense.
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Old 05-25-2021, 01:08 PM   #924
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Mahomes is NOT perfect, but he is still the best QB in the NFL.

A perfect Mahomes (add elite deep ball) would be unfair to the rest of the NFL. What would be the point in watching then? You'd already know the outcome going into every game.
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David Carr is a worse analyst than he was a qb. And he was an awful qb.
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When Derrick Carr and Daniel Jones are on your list as the top 2 deep passers, and Mahomes doesn't even make your top 10, that's a huge ****ing red flag that you need to reevaluate your metrics.

If i did this exercise and that were my results i'd be too embarrassed to even post it.

I'd toss that shit in the trash and move on to some other fluff piece. Publish that instead.
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Another year, another bunch of people saying why the Raiders (and the Chargers for that matter) are secretly super good and then KC goes on to win a sixth straight AFCW.
I'm still amazed at the string of success we've had.

5 division titles and 2 SB's in a row?

Never thought it would happen...
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David Carr is a worse analyst than he was a qb. And he was an awful qb.
Only thing I would say is that David actually got physically destroyed every game and kept on trying. Derek is a fricken pussy when pressured. Derek likely has the better talent but David had more heart. JMO
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Toss in the make shift OL due to injuries for most of the year and Carr had an amazing season.

Carr would be viewed very differently if the Raiders had even the 20th ranked defense on average for his career. His best D was 21st and the team went 12-4.


Buddy, you don't know what a makeshift OL looks like. You're in for a real treat this upcoming season, let me tell you.

All that sunshine you've been pumping out Alex Leatherwood's ass ain't gonna make Carr an effective QB behind those crash posts in front of him.
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Carr did beat us last year. So the talent is there
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