Chiefs ****Our Wide Receivers Suck- Official Thread**** - Page 613

Sofa King · 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM

They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 12-06-2023, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi

Agree with all of this. It's time to simplify the rotation.

We know Andy has a tendency to want to outsmart an opponent, even if we have the horses to out-execute them (short-yardage situations this year come to mind).

I think Andy and Nagy like to experiment and tinker, and we're to the point here with the wide receiver rotation where it's messed with Mahomes and made him hesitant.

They really are shortening the rotation. As I said, I watched the All-22, Moore is basically a blocker on 90% of his snaps. They are runs or quick hitter to someone else that requires blocking, or is on the opposite side of the field.

O.city · 12-06-2023, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

An off-season.

He has to get away from the week to week grind. There's an alternative but I won't speak its name.

Sit him?

O.city · 12-06-2023, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

There's a happy median somewhere. I shared on the "other Gameday Thread" a few weeks ago that the 49ers are going to wear McCaffrey out by the time the playoffs arrive. They may get lucky and keep everyone healthy, but they have already had times with Samuel and McCaffrey being banged up this year and they are running them into the ground. Maybe they all make it to the end and are 90% and fairly healthy, but with the useage they are getting that's rolling the dice.

Well....yeah. That's every team.

Every year, the healthiest (luckiest) survives.

Get your best players on the field and get them the ball. Everything else is mental jerk off stuff.

ThaVirus · 12-06-2023, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Well fellas. I know this was a bullshit holding call on Creed that wasn't really a hold but the bigger picture here is Rice running wide the hell open downfield on the end zone and Patrick misses it.

I feel like we've seen more of those than we would like. Plays that he hit last year.

Rice ends up open in the back of the endzone but because of the underneath routes the safety gets pulled over to that window. Creed is within the framework of the DT. But be throws his hand up versus ripping out of Creed’s grip. The umpire throws the flag. #Chiefs pic.twitter.com/bdTFt3zEmw
— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) December 5, 2023

No surprise there.

Reid was able to scheme guys like Donnie Avery and Junior Hemingway open. The WRs aren’t great, but the biggest issue right now is the QB not seeing the field properly and not firing passes into open windows.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 12-06-2023, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Well....yeah. That's every team.

Every year, the healthiest (luckiest) survives.

Get your best players on the field and get them the ball. Everything else is mental jerk off stuff.

It's a long season, the chart shows they are using their top 4 more than any other team. That's a lot more risk than they need to take and still be winning games.

O.city · 12-06-2023, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

It's a long season, the chart shows they are using their top 4 more than any other team. That's a lot more risk than they need to take and still be winning games.

Nah.

We're too caught up with the foot off the pedal or whatever.

Ride your best and win. Be done with it.

Hammock Parties · 12-06-2023, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Well fellas. I know this was a bullshit holding call on Creed that wasn't really a hold but the bigger picture here is Rice running wide the hell open downfield on the end zone and Patrick misses it.

I feel like we've seen more of those than we would like. Plays that he hit last year.

Rice ends up open in the back of the endzone but because of the underneath routes the safety gets pulled over to that window. Creed is within the framework of the DT. But be throws his hand up versus ripping out of Creed’s grip. The umpire throws the flag. #Chiefs pic.twitter.com/bdTFt3zEmw
— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) December 5, 2023

This is ****ing brutal and reminds me of Alex Smith.

****.

RunKC · 12-06-2023, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

You're spot on. Nagy is a clown and Embree is in over I is head. The lack of discipline really shows on the offense and all the WR's regressed.

At some point the buck stops with the players. MVS has been in the league 6 years and still can't run routes correctly or catch the ball. There's not a coach on this planet that can fix that. That's an MVS problem, not coaching. He did this shit in GB. He is who he is.

Toney is a brokedick. He is who he is. Skyy Moore is not an NFL player. That's the truth. Nothing coaching can do to fix his ass.

Peter King's Germany article mentioned that Andy and Nagy worked together on this issue and the Playcalling has been significantly better. I mean what did we want?

1. Get Rice more snaps and targets. Okay, they have. After the bye Rashee has 24 targets. That's 8 a game.

2. Stop the cute shit in shotgun on 3rd down. Uh they have. They've given it to Pacheco almost every time and have converted those at a significantly higher rate.

3. Run the ball more. Yup. Sure have.

The WR's suck guys and it's not being fixed this year. Idk what to tell you. It's like asking a race car driver to compete with a Toyota Camry.

ToxSocks · 12-06-2023, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Well fellas. I know this was a bullshit holding call on Creed that wasn't really a hold but the bigger picture here is Rice running wide the hell open downfield on the end zone and Patrick misses it.

I feel like we've seen more of those than we would like. Plays that he hit last year.

Rice ends up open in the back of the endzone but because of the underneath routes the safety gets pulled over to that window. Creed is within the framework of the DT. But be throws his hand up versus ripping out of Creed’s grip. The umpire throws the flag. #Chiefs pic.twitter.com/bdTFt3zEmw
— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) December 5, 2023

Looks like he saw Rice early, had to move due to pressure and Rice ran himself into coverage. Ya'll are trippin' on this one.

O.city · 12-06-2023, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Looks like he saw Rice early, had to move due to pressure and Rice ran himself into coverage. Ya'll are trippin' on this one.

Step up, reset and throw a TD pass.

Stop treating him with kid gloves.

BWillie · 12-06-2023, 10:58 AM

Newsflash...all QBs make mistakes...in every single game always. Having such a shitty WR group just magnifies it. Not sure in what world paying an avg RT Juwann Taylor like hes a bonafide LT star is more valuable than simply just paying a WR.

This team walks to a SB with Tyreek Hill, this year and last. Probably with any WR1 as well. I try to not think about what could have been but jts frustrating when a dumbass from Kansas can see the writing on the wall ans Veach and Andy couldn't...IN THIS CASE. They publicly said they expect Toney to be WR1 and many of us were like they couldn't possibly think that, could they?

Tyreek Hill, 4 yrs, 120M
Juwann "holding and false start" Taylor 4 yrs, 80M

Hammock Parties · 12-06-2023, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Looks like he saw Rice early, had to move due to pressure and Rice ran himself into coverage. Ya'll are trippin' on this one.

There was no pressure. He had a clean pocket the instant the ball should have been out - as soon as Rice crossed the corner's face.

seamonster · 12-06-2023, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This is ****ing brutal and reminds me of Alex Smith.

****.

That looks like a zone match scheme. Had Pat not have tried to tuck the ball and run the other defender would have drifted back with Rice.

ThaVirus · 12-06-2023, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Looks like he saw Rice early, had to move due to pressure and Rice ran himself into coverage. Ya'll are trippin' on this one.

Sometimes you’ve gotta anticipate a guy coming open and just throw it to a spot.

Pat’s done very little of that this year as opposed to years past.

ToxSocks · 12-06-2023, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Step up, reset and throw a TD pass.

Stop treating him with kid gloves.

Lol he was flushed from the pocket. The small window to get it into Rice was missed when the pocket collapsed. By the time he even coulda stopped his feet Rice had already ran himself behind a defender who coulda easily peeled off his man, and into another defender coming in from the right, on what wouldve been a cross body throw.

I know Mahomes has been off, but some of these clips ya'll have been trying to grill him on over these past few weeks are ridiculous. Kinda tired of it.

There's plenty of times he deserves criticism. This isnt one of them.

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BWillie Are you ready to Rumble? Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $-1228759	Newsflash...all QBs make mistakes...in every single game always. Having such a shitty WR group just magnifies it. Not sure in what world paying an avg RT Juwann Taylor like hes a bonafide LT star is more valuable than simply just paying a WR. This team walks to a SB with Tyreek Hill, this year and last. Probably with any WR1 as well. I try to not think about what could have been but jts frustrating when a dumbass from Kansas can see the writing on the wall ans Veach and Andy couldn't...IN THIS CASE. They publicly said they expect Toney to be WR1 and many of us were like they couldn't possibly think that, could they? Tyreek Hill, 4 yrs, 120M Juwann "holding and false start" Taylor 4 yrs, 80M
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