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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 07-29-2021, 01:38 PM   #9181
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I'm not sure how smart that is of the Big 12. They are absolutely correct, but if you get on ESPN shitlist and they won't broadcast you if the league is saved, what does that get you? You are biting the hand that feeds so to speak.
That’s now how big biz works, friend.

People kiss and make up all the time if there’s $$$ to be made.

Adidas got us into serious trouble. Then apologized, paid restitution, and re-upped our apparel deal. See? Friends once more!
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Old 07-29-2021, 01:38 PM   #9182
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Most of the big revenue schools are not very 'profitable' if you look at the difference between their revenues and expenses. A lot barely even break even.

Expect Texas A&M, which is just killing it since they moved to the SEC. Crazy difference between their total revenues and their expenses. Most profitable program in college sports currently.
Over a course of one season at big schools like Texas and A&M I imagine some temporary expenses and AD infrastructure costs can add up, but over a rolling 5 or 10 year period it starts to even out and I would imagine those schools would be profitable as well.
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Old 07-29-2021, 01:39 PM   #9183
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That’s now how big biz works, friend.

People kiss and make up all the time if there’s $$$ to be made.

Adidas got us into serious trouble. Then apologized, paid restitution, and re-upped our apparel deal. See? Friends once more!
I think Adidas moreso had dirt on us...and would expose us instead of protect us had we not reupped.
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Old 07-29-2021, 01:40 PM   #9184
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I think Adidas moreso had dirt on us...and would expose us instead of protect us had we not reupped.

If that were true, they wouldn’t have significantly increased the deal.
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Old 07-29-2021, 01:42 PM   #9185
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I think Adidas moreso had dirt on us...and would expose us instead of protect us had we not reupped.
You'd think they'd have a significantly harder time getting other schools to work with them if it was known they pulled some bullshit like that.
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Old 07-29-2021, 01:43 PM   #9186
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Posting this again because as it stands now KU Football is at an all-time low and there's really nowhere to go but up. This is why KU is attractive to conferences, they make money even with football sucking and if that stops happening, even a little bit, this revenue spikes.
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Forget FB. All of KU’s brand value is locked in their hoops program. That’s what other conf will grab us for - if they decide to.


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1. UCLA
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They win with the TV contracts. They also win by driving up discussion with the whole "tampering" thing.
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Old 07-29-2021, 01:52 PM   #9188
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Old 07-29-2021, 01:56 PM   #9189
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The more I think Texas and OU to the SEC is the first step. I think we're going to see alliances and a separation of the major conferences from everyone else. Was talking to a colleague tonight who has heard some similar things about the possibilities. Think about this:

Maybe you have the equivalent of two 32-team leagues. In each "league" you have two "divisions" (the SEC is one division, they join up with another league, say the ACC, that's the other division. Then you have the PAC12/Big 10 as the two divisions in the other league). In each division, you have four four team pods. You play the three teams in your pod, you play 4-5 games against other teams in your division (SEC games) then you play 3-4 against the other division.

Every game is a Power Five game. Ticket sales are through the roof because there are no games you don't care about. Think about this schedule:

Oklahoma (in your pod)
Arkansas (in your pod)
Texas (in your pod)
Ole Miss (conference game)
Florida (conference game)
Kentucky (conference game)
Auburn (conference game)
South Carolina (conference game)
Georgia Tech (crossover game)
Miami (crossover game)
Virginia (crossover game)
NC State (crossover game)

At the end of the 12-game season, each pod has a champion.

Pod 1 vs Pod 2
Pod 3 vs Pod 4

Winners play for the conference title. Winner of that game plays the winner of the other league. Totals 15 games. Then, just maybe, if you have the other 32 team league, the winner of this league plays the winner of that league in the college football championship game.

It adds exactly one game to the schedule for two teams. Nobody plays more than 16 (you could even go to an 11 game regular season if you want to). EVERY SINGLE GAME is must see. I mean, is there a single game on that schedule you wouldn't want to go to? You're only going to have 16 games every week (32 teams) so they're all televised somewhere.

Basically, it's a mini-NFL model. Some would hate it and say that's not college football. But the more I think about it, the more fun it sounds.

And, sure, this is all hypothetical. I don't know if any of this will happen. But I don't think Texas and OU joining the SEC is the end of this.

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