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Old 09-07-2023, 09:08 PM  
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They can’t get open, they drop passes in their hands, their jet sweeps are slow and terrible. These guys are not good.
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Old 09-14-2023, 07:42 PM   #901
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Yeah. The WR room is just not good enough to carry the load without Travis.

In other news, somehow Travis' absence also had a big impact on the running game. Without Pat's 6 scrambles, KC ran for just 45 yards on 17 attempts. 2.6 yds/att. against what was supposed to be one of the worst run defenses in the NFL.
And that is concerning. Especially with this OL. Week 1is often called a "liar." Lets hope that's the case with the running game.
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Old 09-14-2023, 07:45 PM   #903
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This is what absolutely astounds me with this OL. This should generally be one of the better interior OL groups in the NFL. We probably downgraded in run blocking from OBJ to Smith, not sure about Taylor vs. Wylie. Thuney isn't really a mauler, but Creed and Trey both should have the size and strength to pave the way for RBs. Also considering we have Mahomes and teams probably are much more concerned with the pass game I simply do not understand how the run game can be so anemic at times, particularly in short yardage. Is it the scheme? The playcalls? It doesn't add up.

Hypothetically let's say we throw a Jacobs or Taylor level talent in at RB, someone who is elite. How different does that look vs. having guys at RB who are mostly average at best? I'm not saying we should do that, for the record, just curious how it would impact the offense.

Honestly, don't know. I think our IOL is great at pass-blocking and 'good' at run-blocking, but not great at it.


i mean, with a truly elite RB, yeah it would look different. Put CMC (insert great RB here) back there, and the short yardage problems largely just disappear.

But it's not really Pacheco's fault either. The blocking was kind of ass in the run game that night, but that'll improve as the season goes along and the OL gels.
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Yeah. The WR room is just not good enough to carry the load without Travis.

In other news, somehow Travis' absence also had a big impact on the running game. Without Pat's 6 scrambles, KC ran for just 45 yards on 17 attempts. 2.6 yds/att. against what was supposed to be one of the worst run defenses in the NFL.
Thank god we didnt try to run it even more...but the 1st and 10 runs with CEH were quite infuriating.
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Honestly, don't know. I think our IOL is great at pass-blocking and 'good' at run-blocking, but not great at it.


i mean, with a truly elite RB, yeah it would look different. Put CMC (insert great RB here) back there, and the short yardage problems largely just disappear.

But it's not really Pacheco's fault either. The blocking was kind of ass in the run game that night, but that'll improve as the season goes along and the OL gels.
No they wouldnt. Short yardage will remain an issue until we show we are willing to QB sneak with Mahomes. Defenses do not even need to prepare for it.
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Old 09-15-2023, 02:54 PM   #907
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No they wouldnt. Short yardage will remain an issue until we show we are willing to QB sneak with Mahomes. Defenses do not even need to prepare for it.


Um, yeah they probably would. That's a big part of what makes elite RBs elite. Their ability to make chicken salad out of chickenshit blocking.


Though I 100% agree that KC should be running QB sneaks. It's absolutely idiotic that we aren't.
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Um, yeah they probably would. That's a big part of what makes elite RBs elite. Their ability to make chicken salad out of chickenshit blocking.


Though I 100% agree that KC should be running QB sneaks. It's absolutely idiotic that we aren't.
Couldn't care less about the QB sneak. What is stupid as hell is that the NFLs best offense last year struggles at short yardage. They completely over think it.
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Couldn't care less about the QB sneak. What is stupid as hell is that the NFLs best offense last year struggles at short yardage. They completely over think it.


It's been an issue since 2020, for whatever reason. At this point, I'm not sure what we can do about it.
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They didn't play him.

I'll never understand why they signed him instead of Meyer. The article says it was 'Run after the catch ability' but that just seems like rationalizing to me.

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They didn't play him.

I'll never understand why they signed him instead of Meyer. The article says it was 'Run after the catch ability' but that just seems like rationalizing to me.

It was just real dumb.
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