*****The Rashee Rice Thread*****

[Dante84]

More to come!

Mahomes knew Rashee Rice was his guy after throwing with him in Dallas.@AdamLefkoe with the scoop �� pic.twitter.com/X8ZAab22kM

— B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) April 29, 2023

Rashee Rice | WR | SMU

One of the best WR prospects at the catch point and winning leverage mid-route. He consistently sets up defenders to put them on his back, locates the ball, and attacks it at the highest point.

Skill set is wild for a 6' 200lb WR. pic.twitter.com/ClxW4SJvi5

— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) February 16, 2023

Rashee Rice was drafted with pick 55 of round 2 in the 2023 draft class. He scored a 9.53 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 145 out of 3062 WR from 1987 to 2023. https://t.co/lwD9tvVPvv pic.twitter.com/YjucxErSE1

— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) April 29, 2023

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Mecca

People need to stop throwing out Justyn Ross, he's a long shot to make the team.

Richie James is a Hardman replacement. He's not as fast but he's a better route runner and knows how to play the slot.

Hey, I'm literally just reading the list of names off the ESPN website of the Chiefs current depth chart. Don't shoot the messenger.






P.S. Okay, to be completely honest i threw in Fryfogle because his name makes me chuckle. But the others were basically in order.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Hey, I'm literally just reading the list of names off the ESPN website of the Chiefs current depth chart. Don't shoot the messenger.






P.S. Okay, to be completely honest i threw in Fryfogle because his name makes me chuckle. But the others were basically in order.

The WR room most likely will look like this..

MVS
Toney
Moore
Rice
James
Watson

it's hard for me to see them keeping 7 but if Ross just absolutely balls out he may be kept. But honestly I think they'd like to put Justyn on the PS for a year and go from there.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

I know jack and shit about playing professional football, but I have to think sticking Moore out there as a punt returner, which he had no business doing, ****ed with his confidence and the rest of his game for much of the season. He was busting his ass just to get on the field as a WR, and then Toub sends him out there to make himself look like a reerun...several times. That's a shitty spot to put a rookie in.

Yep.

He should have never been a punt returner. And he's admitted since the Super Bowl TD that it took most of the season to get his confidence back.

For all the bitching about Spags and the defense, it's Toub that really needs reined in.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yep.

He should have never been a punt returner. And he's admitted since the Super Bowl TD that it took most of the season to get his confidence back.

For all the bitching about Spags and the defense, it's Toub that really needs reined in.

So much so it certainly looks like they drafted at least 1 guy specifically for him.

[RunKC]

Makes perfect sense why they drafted Rice. Lot of people are up in arms that they didn’t draft Mims, Downs or Hyatt.

They have those guys on the roster. Toney is a speed option that can go deep and do gadget role, MVS is the speed option to break the field open and draw coverage. Hell they have John Ross as inventory at this point. They could keep him on the PS in the event of an injury.

That was covered.

And I like Downs but his comp was literally Toney, who we have.

They were clearly looking for a bigger WR, likely to replace Juju

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Moore's last punt return did wonders for his confidence. But yeah, lets move on!

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Makes perfect sense why they drafted Rice. Lot of people are up in arms that they didn’t draft Mims, Downs or Hyatt.

They have those guys on the roster. Toney is a speed option that can go deep and do gadget role, MVS is the speed option to break the field open and draw coverage. Hell they have John Ross as inventory at this point. They could keep him on the PS in the event of an injury.

That was covered.

And I like Downs but his comp was literally Toney, who we have.

They were clearly looking for a bigger WR, likely to replace Juju

Right.

Because they found out last year that a younger, healthier version of JJSS has a really good shot in this "new" offense.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Well, he will if Andy gives him that opportunity in 2023, which he might not. But eventually I think Andy will. Just a matter of when.

I don't believe Andy is goiing to stunt his opportunities. I believe he has to prove he deserves them, but so does Moore.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

I don't believe Andy is goiing to stunt his opportunities. I believe he has to prove he deserves them, but so does Moore.

Andy is going to do what he always does, which is try to put his players in the best spots to succeed. The other side of that is, he's not going to put them in spots where he thinks they might struggle.

So, just as an example, rookie/new WRs don't usually stay on the field whenever KC goes hurry-up or two-minute offense. Especially for about the first half of the season.

Historically, we know he works them into the offense a few snaps at a time and gradually builds up their snap counts over the course of the season. But they have to show significant improvement/growth before he leaves them out there in those two types of situations.

Which is why I'm not expecting Rice to just leapfrog everyone, especially WRs that have been here for at least a season. He has a lot of catching up to do. And ideally Toney will stay healthy, so Rice should be kind of buried in the depth chart.

But if Toney doesn't stay healthy, and if Skyy struggles, then Rice will probably get an opportunity to get a significant rise in snaps.

Maybe. If he absorbs the playbook and shows out in practice to a level that Andy think is acceptable.

Otherwise, he'll see about the same number of snaps/targets that Skyy did last season (3tgts/gm), and he'll be on the sidelines for most two-minute drills/hurry-up scenarios.

Which will be normal for a Chiefs rook.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Where'd you hear this?

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Did people listen to this?


https://omny.fm/shows/the-zone/sam-m...s-draft-5-5-23


9:27. PFF is on and saying that it's basically mathematically impossible that Rice ran a 4.51 40 and he thinks there was something screwy with the laser timing. It would make sense why Hyatt's was slow too, and Tank Dell.


edit: also Jordan Addison

It's in here, I'll look up where


21:30


really this whole thing is worth listening to though. Quote is at 25:00

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

It's in here, I'll look up where

I'd appreciate it!

[Kelly 2 Allen]

It scares the crap out of me that the greatest QB I've ever seen in mahomes is getting a wr with the last name Rice...

It's starting to set in the chiefs ar going to be like the 80s 49ers dynasty or better...

[cdcox]

Mahomes in an Andy Reid offense is going to get 4000 yards in his sleep throwing to the ChiefsPlanet 4.5 club. For Mahomes, 4500 is an average year. We won’t have any problem with the WR position. We just don’t know which guys are going to catch how many yards, but overall it’s hard to imagine the outcome that some of you are conjuring where Kelce struggles to top 800 and everyone else is under 500.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

It's in here, I'll look up where


21:30


really this whole thing is worth listening to though. Quote is at 25:00

My genuine question on this is whether it really is mathematically impossible. There are, I think, plenty of guys over the years who've had better 10 and 20 splits than 40s, relative to others. Watching him he does look quicker off the line than deep, I know the PFF guys think he slows down deliberately to reinitiate contact but I dunno. Seems plausible but he might also just be a high 4.4 guy.

[Kiimo]

I think you look at his 10 and his 20 and then you say okay well if that 40 is accurate he would have to really hit the wall in the last 20 and you watch his 40 and that doesn't happen and you say okay this math doesn't add up.