Stadium Watch 2024 -Jackson County Residents: How Are You Voting?

[Pablo]

Vote in this poll if you actually live in Jackson county.

We've all shared our opinions in the other thread. But who gives a shit what somebody in Platte County or Johnson County or Phoenix or NYC thinks. We're all just noise.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Woogieman

I'm shook at the stupidity I see...people that cavalierly dismiss the economic and entertainment impact of losing the Royals. I'm shook at the low-bar folks that only go to the legends for a throw rug and 10% off a pair of Nikes suddenly believe the Chiefs can build an entertainment district that will attract people for more than 10X a year

Because, dude, nobody voted to 'lose the Royals '. We just voted to not give them a limitless credit card to do whatever the **** they want wherever the **** they want to do it. That's it. It was a shitty plan with so many questions -none of which they'd answer.

They're not going anywhere. They'll come back with a better plan and we'll take a look.

It's that simple. All of the rest of this is tantrum throwing and hyperbole.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I 100% will go to more games if they move out by Legends. I could avoid renting a car entirely and just hang out in the area all weekend before and after the game. I only go to games every year or two as it is - it's just too much of a pain in the ass to get to Arrowhead on a quick trip.

Whether I'm in the majority or not, I can't say, but I'm confident I'm not completely alone.

I don't live in KC but Clinton (1 hr south) and the TSC is the perfect location IMHO. Relatively easy to get in and out and centrally located.

I admit I haven't been to a Nascar race or SKC in a while but the last time I did for SKC I had to park in the grass somewhere or the Legends\Nebraska Furniture parking lot. Not atmosphere outside the stadium that I could remember.

But it is soccer

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Woogieman

Austin is the 2nd fastest growing city in America, the NFL greed can't pass that up. 40 team expansion habe to include Mexico City and London, right?

Austin is about 2 hours away from Houston and 3 hours away from Dallas.

A team in Austin would be awfully parasitic from an overall league health perspective. They're not likely adding new fans - they're just shuffling them around a bit (if at all - Dallas fans in Austin aren't going to become Austin fans over any sort of reasonable timeline).

Moreover, I have some family down there and Austin's really busting at the seems a bit. Their growth will almost have to plateau shortly or they're going to implode from a pure livability standpoint.

I don't think Austin's as obvious a candidate as you would think.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Woogieman

Austin is the 2nd fastest growing city in America, the NFL greed can't pass that up. 40 team expansion habe to include Mexico City and London, right?

Austin is outpacing its infrastructure

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Yeah I personally hope both teams move to KS it would be nice not having to pay for them

... politicians and the free loaders will vote for something else less valuable than the Chiefs to eat up that new available sales tax vacancy...

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

The Cowboys have the Miller Lite House outside their stadium that includes a 70 yard turf “Cowboys” field, cornhole, digital fantasy football analytics walls, beer gardens, 4 LED video boards, 4-5 food trucks on premise, 6 permanent outdoor bars, 60+ screens for gameday, 39k ft of shade cover for weather conditions and postgame activities including a stage for concerts, tailgate games, trivia and contests.

Clark could make so much money investing in something like this with how much Chiefs fans tailgate. It would be even more enticing in Legends where things like shopping, a casino and new hotels would be instead of the middle of nowhere currently.

Folks think this wouldn’t be good for Clark and the average fan?

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I think that gets passed, yes. Fairly easily, in fact.

In Wyandotte County.

And I think that's probably the end game here. It's what Clark actually wants. And long-term, it'll be better for Chiefs fans (though I would hate it coming from the East side of the city; would make my drive in/out from Columbia quite a bit shittier every weekend).

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Austin is about 2 hours away from Houston and 3 hours away from Dallas.

A team in Austin would be awfully parasitic from an overall league health perspective. They're not likely adding new fans - they're just shuffling them around a bit (if at all - Dallas fans in Austin aren't going to become Austin fans over any sort of reasonable timeline).

Moreover, I have some family down there and Austin's really busting at the seems a bit. There growth will almost have to plateau shortly or they're going to implode from a pure livability standpoint.

I don't think Austin's as obvious a candidate as you would think.

It's 3 miles closer to the Legends than Arrowhead though.

[dirk digler]

I was listening to 610 a little bit ago and they were playing some Fescue clips and he said the KS gov has told people they are ready to offer over a billion dollars to both teams with no public vote required.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Austin is outpacing its infrastructure

Biggly.

It's not something that can't be fixed by the influx of tax dollars over a long enough period of time. But it's gonna be a 5-10 year process with some fairly nasty growing pains along the way.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I was listening to 610 a little bit ago and they were playing some Fescue clips and he said the KS gov has told people they are ready to offer over a billion dollars to both teams with no public vote required.

Lets remember...it's Bob Fescoe.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Lets remember...it's Bob Fescoe.

True but I don't have any doubt they have the bag to make that happen at least for the Chiefs.

[Chris Meck]

You guys are losing your minds for no reason.

Nobody is going anywhere.

Both teams will come back with probably separate proposals - and they should, and they should be separated. If it's not going to be one complex anymore, why should The Chiefs be tied to the boat anchor Royals?

The Chiefs renovation will almost surely pass. Nobody cares about a less than half a cent tax.

The Royals sunk this vote by being very, very stupid. Get a better plan that doesn't suck shit and it'll probably pass, too. East Village site probably would have passed easily. It was monumentally stupid to assume that The Chiefs would provide enough cover for them to do this.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

You guys are losing your minds for no reason.

Nobody is going anywhere.

Both teams will come back with probably separate proposals - and they should, and they should be separated. If it's not going to be one complex anymore, why should The Chiefs be tied to the boat anchor Royals?

The Chiefs renovation will almost surely pass. Nobody cares about a less than half a cent tax.

The Royals sunk this vote by being very, very stupid. Get a better plan that doesn't suck shit and it'll probably pass, too. East Village site probably would have passed easily. It was monumentally stupid to assume that The Chiefs would provide enough cover for them to do this.

You're assuming the Chiefs are willing to come back to the table with Jackson County.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Biggly.

It's not something that can't be fixed by the influx of tax dollars over a long enough period of time. But it's gonna be a 5-10 year process with some fairly nasty growing pains along the way.

As I think about it, San Antonio might actually be a nice fit. Or something where they try to do a bit of both (SA and Austin).

Could you plop a stadium in New Braunfels and have enough space to make it work out there while siphoning traffic from both Austin and San Antonio without blasting their respective infrastructures? And by adding another hour or so in distance away from Houston/Dallas while pushing into south texas where they're kinda different creatures (definitely not as likely to be Dallas fans) might you be able to sate Jerrah a little more?

I'd see a team in/near San Antonio being a bit more likely than Austin. You'll still get the benefit of the population growth in Austin but you'll do it in a way that's less intrusive and maybe more likely to actually help the league grow rather than just shuffle some deck chairs. Austin's growth just isn't organic at all. That's all transplants who probably already have teams (or don't care about football; they ain't from Texas afterall - it presumably wasn't a religion where they came from). San Antonio's growth has been more natural and when you get down to south Texas you're in real live native Texan territory.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I was listening to 610 a little bit ago and they were playing some Fescue clips and he said the KS gov has told people they are ready to offer over a billion dollars to both teams with no public vote required.

Bob Fescoe is a ****ing idiot