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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 07-28-2021, 01:25 PM   #9076
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Old 07-28-2021, 01:34 PM   #9077
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By the way, my Team (K-State) is like 12 shades of ****ed right now. I mean, let's be honest, we were always hanging on and hoping when realignment happened. But now? Yeah, it's over. Quite frankly, I don't think I'll have much passion cheering for my alma mater in a G5 Conference.....at least not in the same capacity that I do today. It sucks, but that's just the route CFB is going.
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Old 07-28-2021, 02:12 PM   #9078
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By the way, my Team (K-State) is like 12 shades of ****ed right now. I mean, let's be honest, we were always hanging on and hoping when realignment happened. But now? Yeah, it's over. Quite frankly, I don't think I'll have much passion cheering for my alma mater in a G5 Conference.....at least not in the same capacity that I do today. It sucks, but that's just the route CFB is going.
I don’t like to say anything negative about Snyder but, he did us no favors hanging on too long trying to get an undeserving Sean in the big chair. That time that could have gone towards a new staff getting their program built and looking more desirable. It was going to be difficult regardless but, even more so now.
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Old 07-28-2021, 02:16 PM   #9079
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I don’t like to say anything negative about Snyder but, he did us no favors hanging on too long trying to get an undeserving Sean in the big chair. That time that could have gone towards a new staff getting their program built and looking more desirable. It was going to be difficult regardless but, even more so now.
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 07-28-2021, 02:45 PM   #9080
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As much as I hate this whole thing, that is friggin hilarious
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I don’t like to say anything negative about Snyder but, he did us no favors hanging on too long trying to get an undeserving Sean in the big chair. That time that could have gone towards a new staff getting their program built and looking more desirable. It was going to be difficult regardless but, even more so now.
TV is dictating all of this. KSU just doesn’t have a big fan base or any good market. TCU is going to be in the same boat, and they have a really good recent history and the best market imaginable.


It isn’t anything your leaders or coaches could change.
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Cease and desist may mean 2 things: 1) lawsuit coming to recoup losses 2) Big 12 should get prepared for ESPN's wrath (assuming the B12 survives)
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TV is dictating all of this. KSU just doesn’t have a big fan base or any good market. TCU is going to be in the same boat, and they have a really good recent history and the best market imaginable.


It isn’t anything your leaders or coaches could change.
This isn't me getting in a pissing match because I know what we are, but ku and isu are in a similar boat with K-State. This is 100% about football and TV Sets and neither of you have either one of those to sell.
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I never thought Stoops would turn around UK football but he proved me wrong.

The Mizzou vs Kentucky game should be interesting this season.
Kentucky football being turned around is a stretch…
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Wait, are Kansas fans actually being serious about the ACC? Thought it was pretty much a given that WVU and ND were the two to get them to 16.
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Really?

He has tied the school record for consecutive bowl appearances, with a good chance to break it next year.

He ended a historic losing streak to Florida and a long road losing streak to Tennessee.

2018 was the first time since the 1970s that UK had won 5 SEC games in a season. Also the first time they finished with 10 wins since the 1970s.

How is that not turning them around?
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Wait, are Kansas fans actually being serious about the ACC? Thought it was pretty much a given that WVU and ND were the two to get them to 16.
ND isn't joining a conference until they have to or lose out on a football playoff, it would be a pay cut for them.
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Wait, are Kansas fans actually being serious about the ACC? Thought it was pretty much a given that WVU and ND were the two to get them to 16.
West Virginia has been rejected numerous times by the ACC because their academics are shit.
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ND isn't joining a conference until they have to or lose out on a football playoff, it would be a pay cut for them.
Well, if ESPN is really the puppet master here they'd probably be willing to throw a **** ton more money towards the ACC to make it worth it for ND.
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