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Old 02-09-2025, 08:08 PM  
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Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect
I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen
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Old 02-13-2025, 12:25 PM   #886
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That's a laughably low standard. OBJ isn't a good LT, barely servicable. He got Mahomes hurt in 2022, got Burrow hurt in 2023, and missed almost half the year in 2024.
I liked the part where our OL gave up zero sacks to a stacked Eagles defense in a Super Bowl and put up 38 points.
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Old 02-13-2025, 12:26 PM   #887
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Sure, if we can play on a field that completely neutralizes any pass rush threat all the time throw out any scrub muffin we can find.
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Old 02-13-2025, 12:29 PM   #888
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Sure, if we can play on a field that completely neutralizes any pass rush threat all the time throw out any scrub muffin we can find.
That was the Eagles fans excuse. Surprised you 100% accepted it.
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Old 02-13-2025, 12:31 PM   #889
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That was the Eagles fans excuse. Surprised you 100% accepted it.
Toma himself acknowledged how ****ing terrible it was and went into a deep dive as to exactly why.
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Old 02-13-2025, 12:32 PM   #890
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I liked the part where our OL gave up zero sacks to a stacked Eagles defense in a Super Bowl and put up 38 points.
Also have to acknowledge that Andrew Wylie was part of that offensive line.

A not great, but serviceable and low cost RT… who Veach decided to “upgrade” from with Jawaan Taylor and his $20 million AAV.
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Toma himself acknowledged how ****ing terrible it was and went into a deep dive as to exactly why.
Both teams had to play on the same field.


That's football. Boo hoo, poor Eagles had to play on grass.


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Both teams had to play on the same field.


That's football. Boo hoo, poor Eagles had to play on grass.
Uhh. Right. Both offenses had an incredible advantage playing on a field that shoddy.
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Also have to acknowledge that Andrew Wylie was part of that offensive line.

A not great, but serviceable and low cost RT… who Veach decided to “upgrade” from with Jawaan Taylor and his $20 million AAV.
They gave Browns money to Taylor, Wylie wasn't going to be low cost anymore and they felt they could get more athletic.

For the most part Taylor is the player he's always been.
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Uhh. Right. Both offenses had an incredible advantage playing on a field that shoddy.
The thought was we would easily replace Orlando Brown Jr.


That hasn't happened yet.
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Really haven't put their best foot forward on it. Donovan Smith was a pivot that worked out and Suamataia/Morris both unfortunately flopped.
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PFF has Cam Robinson projected for $18.75M/yr over 3 years.

Yeah I’d do that. Backload it to the 3rd year with a clean way out and we good
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They gave Browns money to Taylor, Wylie wasn't going to be low cost anymore and they felt they could get more athletic.

For the most part Taylor is the player he's always been.
Yup.

I'm disappointed in the Taylor deal because I thought he'd A) transition to LT and B) continue to to progress given where he was in his career and the fairly poor organization he'd been in for the years prior.

He just didn't get better. He's the same guy he's always been.

Which does NOT make him a bad player. At all. It means he's been a little overpaid (or at least will have been by the time next year's deal is over) and didn't fit the needs of the team as well as I hoped he would.

It's been a B-/C+ deal. There are worse teams signed by NFL teams every season. There are guys who simply don't make the field and the team falls apart around them.

I mean you compare it to, say, the Omenihu deal that nobody really complains about. He got $16 million and didn't really contribute to the 2023 championship run after getting hurt in the playoffs. He wasn't as impactful this year as he was at his best last year and we didn't go as far with him in the lineup than we did without him in the lineup last season.

At $16 million for 8 sacks over 17 games that deal ended up being....eh. B-/C+.
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There's 17 games in a ****ing season and he had a 4 man rotation playing musical chairs all year. Just saying he needed to suck it up is a bit lame IMO.
5 different people at Left Tackle in 5 Super Bowl appearances. You would think this occurred over a 15-20 year period. NOPE. It was just a 6 year period. This isn't sustainable. Josh Allen has had the same dude at Left Tackle for 99% of the games over the last 7 years.
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5 different people at Left Tackle in 5 Super Bowl appearances. You would think this occurred over a 15-20 year period. NOPE. It was just a 6 year period. This isn't sustainable. Josh Allen has had the same dude at Left Tackle for 99% of the games over the last 7 years.
The GM prior to Beane had a hell of a draft in 2017.

Grabbed the Left Tackle Dion Dawkins with a 3rd round pick a year before they drafted Josh.


We haven't hit on any of the tackles we drafted in the last 7 years.
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Yup.

I'm disappointed in the Taylor deal because I thought he'd A) transition to LT and B) continue to to progress given where he was in his career and the fairly poor organization he'd been in for the years prior.

He just didn't get better. He's the same guy he's always been.

Which does NOT make him a bad player. At all. It means he's been a little overpaid (or at least will have been by the time next year's deal is over) and didn't fit the needs of the team as well as I hoped he would.

It's been a B-/C+ deal. There are worse teams signed by NFL teams every season. There are guys who simply don't make the field and the team falls apart around them.

I mean you compare it to, say, the Omenihu deal that nobody really complains about. He got $16 million and didn't really contribute to the 2023 championship run after getting hurt in the playoffs. He wasn't as impactful this year as he was at his best last year and we didn't go as far with him in the lineup than we did without him in the lineup last season.

At $16 million for 8 sacks over 17 games that deal ended up being....eh. B-/C+.
Browsing around some stuff today...I just don't see how Chase Young isn't your ideal guy to drop into this defense. They don't like speed guys, he's not just a speed guy. They don't like older players, he's 26.

Just makes too much sense to me.
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