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Join Date: Aug 2001
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It's why NU left and it's why MU fans want out so badly. They'd be buried so deep in the SEC they'd never sniff another division title. Beat them on the field and it's a non factor. |
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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Don't get me wrong, I don't want to pretend that everything is hunky dorey and we have nothing to worry about now without some changes.
Our problems stem from the LHN, but not because of the money. The fans are obsessing over the money, but that is not why schools are pissed. We have 2 problems. (well 3, including distrust that other schools are about to leave, but you can fix that by forcing them to sign away their T1/2 TV rights for several years so that it is basically impossible to leave) 1) If the LHN shows high school ball, even highlights, then Texas could exploit that for a recruiting advantage. 2) The LHN apparently intends to work out deals with Fox/ESPN to poach some of our T1/2 games. (Kansas is complicit in this, because we accepted a big bribe to let them show our KU/UT game on the LHN) If Texas wants to show non-conference games that are not picked up, fine, go nuts and feel free to keep what you make. If Texas wants to show a conference game, they should split all revenue from that game. This is fixable. If Texas doesn't show high school and splits anything they get from conference games, we're cool. The 3rd tier money they get otherwise is not enough to bother with.
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The Insider
Join Date: Jan 2004
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If I am Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas Tech etc I buy ads on the LHN.
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: New York City
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The high school thing shouldn't happen and won't happen. Even if there are literally 18 people in this country that subscribe to the LHN. It was a dumb thing to try and pull and I don't think anyone's going to be worried about that going forward. It is annoying that there is a possibility of conf games getting poached by the LHN. This year the KU got taken. If KU was better on the field then they wouldn't have agreed to it and it would have been put on ABC or FSN or whatever. I live in NYC which will NEVER have the LHN. So no matter where I go I won't be able to watch KU-UT this year. That sucks. But if KU doesn't have the pull on the field to say no then that's their own fault. I'm going to give them this year because it will be a good payout for them and most of the KU fans won't be screaming about not seeing it because the team will most likely not win. |
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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Anyway, I said money is not really the issue, now that everyone has agreed to share Tier 1/2, so lets break it down. (I'll also assume we expand to 10)
We currently have a weird situation where our tier 2 contract is a lot bigger than our tier 1 contract, because we made our deal with Fox recently. That tells us that our tier 1 deal will probably be massive. (maybe we can renegotiate after dropping A&M and adding BYU?) Tier 1 (ESPN): expires in 2016, $60MM/year, $6MM per school Tier 2 (Fox): expires in 2025, $90MM/year, $9MM per school Money each school gets from TV if they don't make a dime on Tier 3: $15MM/year Tier 3 (owned by each school): 2009-2010 school year Texas: ~$15MM/yr (not 09-10, based on future from LHN) Kansas: ~$7.3MM OSU: ~$6.4MM MU: ~$4.1MM KSU: ~$3.3MM ISU: ~$2.6MM OU:~$300k TTech and BU: basically zero average: ~$4.3MM If everyone splits evenly, each school gets about ~$19.3MM If no split, Mizzou gets about ~$19.1MM. Baylor gets ~$15MM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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Conference Leaderboard
PAC 12: $250MM/year, locked in through 2024 Big 10: $212MM/year, T1 (100/yr) done in 2016, T2 basically locked in forever (2030's through BTN) SEC: $205MM/year, locked in through 2024, which is probably why they'd like to expand to give them an excuse to renegotiate ACC: $155MM/year, locked in through 2023, but maybe they can now renegotiate? Big 12: $150MM/year, details above Big East: $42.3MM/year, T1 expires next year, T2 expires in 2013, if the conference makes it that far
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Quit your bullshit
Join Date: Jul 2005
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K-State has beaten Texas several times. What do you think that's worth when it comes to realignment?
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The Constitutional Choo choo
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Bebee to be fired tomorrow morning.
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Look into AT&T Jayhawk All Access. You can watch the game online. It also includes this weekends legends of the phog exhibition. |
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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The Pac would be better with Texas on the same terms as USC and UCLA. But they weren't ever going to accomidate Texas above USC and UCLA. Texas was going to get whatever those schools get. And they were going to get whatever Texas gets. And the LA schools have wanted a B12/UT-like deal from the Pac-10 for years... for obvious reasons. So there was no "saving face" necessary on the Pac-12's part. None. That's not so say that it couldn't have been very good for the Pac12 to become the Pac16. But only under certain conditions. And Texas was going to have to accept them ultimately. They weren't willing to. They said no. Scott said fine. And the Pac voted to stand pat... where pat is a very good position. |
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I see the Big 10 as more of a bball conf nowadays. No sniff of a title since Maurice Clarett. Wow thats a long time |
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