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Old 04-15-2025, 07:20 AM  
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Old 04-15-2025, 10:35 PM   #76
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Old 04-15-2025, 11:49 PM   #77
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Jimmy Graham (never the same)
Victor Cruz (never the same)
Jarod Mayo (ended career)
Cadillac Williams (never the same)
The Chiefs Lucas Niang (after his first year)
Jack Conklin (hasn’t played as well since coming back, can’t stay healthy)
Ryan Williams (Cardinals RB, ended career)
JC Jackson (never the same)
Le Charles Bentley (ended career)

Most of these guys were early in their careers/in their prime.

Like 50 percent of guys who have this injury have even return to play in the NFL. And I can’t find a single dude who came back and was as good as he was before.

Simmons’ knee can check out healthy and the repair can be successful, and all history tells us that his new “healthy best” won’t be as good as it was before.

That’s the problem.
So that's what happened to Jimmy Graham. It initially looked like he would be similar to guys like Gronk and Kelce.

Always wondered why he fell off a cliff.
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Old 04-16-2025, 03:59 AM   #78
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Is this really a thing? Or is this blog trying to get clicks by taking a stab in the dark?
That would be my bet!
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Old 04-16-2025, 04:01 AM   #79
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Jimmy Graham (never the same)
Victor Cruz (never the same)
Jarod Mayo (ended career)
Cadillac Williams (never the same)
The Chiefs Lucas Niang (after his first year)
Jack Conklin (hasn’t played as well since coming back, can’t stay healthy)
Ryan Williams (Cardinals RB, ended career)
JC Jackson (never the same)
Le Charles Bentley (ended career)

Most of these guys were early in their careers/in their prime.

Like 50 percent of guys who have this injury have even return to play in the NFL. And I can’t find a single dude who came back and was as good as he was before.

Simmons’ knee can check out healthy and the repair can be successful, and all history tells us that his new “healthy best” won’t be as good as it was before.

That’s the problem.
Yeah, I’m just convinced it would be asinine to even draft him in the first round, much less trade up for him. Maybe, MAYBE take a flyer on him if he lasts until the third or fourth. Even then I’m skeptical. There will be so many day one impact players in the first; we need to go that route.
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Old 04-16-2025, 04:12 AM   #80
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I ran the purported trade thru the draft simulator on ESPN and I grabbed Walter Nolen....picked up Aironte Ersery and Kaleb Johnson later...

Still didn't like the draft i ended up with. I just don't see this trade paying off for KC in the long run.

Heck we could stay pat and still end up with Nolen...plus not have to give up any other later draft picks....
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Old 04-16-2025, 05:10 AM   #81
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Old 04-16-2025, 05:32 AM   #82
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Kelvin Banks, Harmon, or Nolen would be an ideal pick at 23...
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Old 04-16-2025, 05:38 AM   #83
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Because Kelce and Hollywood will be gone next year.
I can stop in on my way to work and slap your "GB guy" in the head for you if you want. He's likely going in the top 15.
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Kelvin Banks, Harmon, or Nolen would be an ideal pick at 23...
if they are there, absolutely make a trade up!! however, this draft is chock full of talent!! i feel quantity of picks would benefit this team better in the long run.

for the sake of argument, this week is going to take sooooooooooo long......
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TRADE DOWN, NOT UP!!!!!
I tried trading down on the Draft Simulator and couldn't find a trade down partner where the trade netted us additional picks I like.

Now....I grt Veach and his team are much more astute than I am...so if they are wanting to trade down to pick up additional picks , more power to them.
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I know we all want a solution at LT. Its just not going to be this year.

Way too much talent on the DL to pass on those players. We need to give Jones more help at DT. He could really wreck shit if he had more one on ones.
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Not being a wise ass here and sorry if it has already been discussed, but what previous players had this injury? If it seriously damaged/ended their career how old were they at the time of injury? Genuinely curious.

Without the injury history this dude is likely a top 5 pick. If the Chiefs medical experts think he checks out I think it is well worth the risk. As long as Mahomes is under center and Reid is the coach, we are gonna be picking late in the first every single year. Golden opportunity to steal a franchise left tackle. If...IF...they think he is ready to roll.
I ask again - based on what?

He was a 2nd day pick after his first season at Ohio State. He then played 6 mediocre (or worse teams) before getting hurt and had his worst game against the one quality team he played before he got hurt.

Then they replaced him with Donovan Jackson and won a championship without him.

What did we see from Simmons that even says he's a top 10 pick, let alone top 5?

This was a 12-15 talent -- probably -- had he not gotten hurt. AND had he actually played well in a conference season; which certainly wasn't a given.

I just don't see where anyone is getting this 'elite if healthy' stufff with Josh Simmons. He wasn't. And then he got hurt.

This just feels like the Justyn Ross "He was a 1st round talent before the injuries!" stuff. People projected his talent based on a few strong games as a freshman and they presumed a continued strong development curve. Then they AGAIN presumed he'd get back to healthy.

In all likelihood neither thing was true. His development curve wouldn't have taken him to 1st round status even if healthy and then it turns out he was never going to be the same player even AFTER he was 'healed' from the injuries he'd had.

And there were people looking at him as a potential 1st or 2nd round pick in that draft 'round here. And many of those same folks are making the same mistakes now that they made then.
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I think he’s going a lot higher than the consensus mocks and a lot of people think…wouldn’t be shocked if he’s a top 20 pick.

Also enough with the Simmons, not only the injury but there’s a ton of smoke around him off the field, like his work ethic and his want and desire. I’m good.

Sounds exactly like the type of player you should be moving up for.
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I think he’s going a lot higher than the consensus mocks and a lot of people think…wouldn’t be shocked if he’s a top 20 pick.

Also enough with the Simmons, not only the injury but there’s a ton of smoke around him off the field, like his work ethic and his want and desire. I’m good.

Sounds exactly like the type of player you should be moving up for.
Agreed.

Brugler has Harmon as his 16th overall prospect. I think he goes #11 to SF.

He has Simmons at 20th overall, though he notes that the projection depends on individual team medical evaluations.

Notably, he has Conerly as his 23rd overall, and people think he'd be a reach and a major project around here. Many prospects the masses want, like Nolen and Burden, are below him.

Brugler is normally pretty plugged in when he releases The Beast, with how NFL teams feel about these guys, too.
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I agree on both fronts.

I’d like to hear some case studies around this injury, positive and negative.

But, ultimately, if the Chiefs staff medical say it’s a go then I’m 100% for it.
There really aren't any positives. The guys that suffer this kind of injury just never fully recover. Again, this isn't about medical exams. Nobody will know if he's good to go until he steps on the field.
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