Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

[RunKC]

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen

[Sassy Squatch]

Pair them with Humphries? Why the **** would you even bother bringing that brokedick back after what just happened?

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Pair them with Humphries? Why the **** would you even bother bringing that brokedick back after what just happened?

Because he clearly wasn’t fully healthy or ready, giving him a full healthy offseason to prepare. I have no faith he will stay healthy an entire season but he’s ot the worst budget option to pair with a rookie who needs a little development time.

[kccrow]

I think Humphries, with a full offseason to get healthy and in shape, is the best option we can hope for in FA. He already knows the offense. He's a stopgap for a rookie.

The only guy that actually moves the needle in FA over Humphries is Ronnie Stanley and I don't see any way that Baltimore doesn't Franchise tag that guy. Alaric Jackson is probably going to get tagged too. Those teams are playoff teams, don't have replacements either, and just witnessed the problems it causes not having a guy.

I've already posted shit like Cam Robinson and Dan Moore in other threads. No thanks on either, and if I'm picking one of the two it's Moore not Robinson.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I think Humphries, with a full offseason to get healthy and in shape, is the best option we can hope for in FA. He already knows the offense. He's a stopgap for a rookie.

The only guy that actually moves the needle in FA over Humphries is Ronnie Stanley and I don't see any way that Baltimore doesn't Franchise tag that guy. Alaric Jackson is probably going to get tagged too. Those teams are playoff teams, don't have replacements either, and just witnessed the problems it causes not having a guy.

I've already posted shit like Cam Robinson and Dan Moore in other threads. No thanks on either, and if I'm picking one of the two it's Moore not Robinson.

You might be shocked about Stanley, Baltimore is always hesitant to hand out third contracts. They seem to find OTs like they grow on trees, so I won't be shocked if they let him test the market.

Same with Jackson, from what I've read, the Rams aren't really keen on tagging him. If either of these guys hits the market, you pay them whatever the **** it takes to get them here, end of conversation. We're going to ruin Mahomes if we keep pulling this shit, enough is enough.

[duncan_idaho]

Topic here is one that’s easier said than done.

If there is a guy they love that they can get into position for, I think they will do that. Would need to be someone they’re certain about, like McDuffie and Mahomes.

But you have to be able to get into position. For that guy. And teams have to make the deal with you. And you have to not get sniped.

There isn’t a LT tree. Upgrading there isn’t as simple as deciding you’re going to upgrade there. It’s not Madden. You can’t edit a guy and draft him in the 6th round. You can’t sucked an AI into a trade.

The Chiefs have tried and will continue to try to find the answer at LT.

For as much crap as we have him, if you could do over one thing and just make Eric Fisher’s Achilles not erupt, things would look a lot different for KC.

[Red Dawg]

We have a ton of money in the OL but the player's suck. Veach has failed in this area and now we have hardly any money and still for the 7th year in a row need an LT.

That sucks and there is no good answer.

[Direckshun]

I'd probably pay for Cam Robinson.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I'd probably pay for Cam Robinson.

Problem is he sucks. Pretty badly. There's a reason the Jaguars gave up on him and he proved them right with that disastrous pair of games to close out the Vikings season.

52 pressures allowed for an 8.2% pressure given up rate.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

We have a ton of money in the OL but the player's suck. Veach has failed in this area and now we have hardly any money and still for the 7th year in a row need an LT.

That sucks and there is no good answer.

Next year is going to a transition year. Veach is going to have to rebuild the offensive line over the next few years. One offseason is not going to do it.

LT - need a new one

LG - Thuney is 33

C - fine

RG - Smith is gone

RT - Taylor sucks and can be cut after 2026 with a reasonable cap hit

[milkshock]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I think Humphries, with a full offseason to get healthy and in shape, is the best option we can hope for in FA. He already knows the offense. He's a stopgap for a rookie.

The only guy that actually moves the needle in FA over Humphries is Ronnie Stanley and I don't see any way that Baltimore doesn't Franchise tag that guy. Alaric Jackson is probably going to get tagged too. Those teams are playoff teams, don't have replacements either, and just witnessed the problems it causes not having a guy.

I've already posted shit like Cam Robinson and Dan Moore in other threads. No thanks on either, and if I'm picking one of the two it's Moore not Robinson.

Veach let Brown walk with nothing lined up, so it is possible they are allowed to test the market.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

You might be shocked about Stanley, Baltimore is always hesitant to hand out third contracts. They seem to find OTs like they grow on trees, so I won't be shocked if they let him test the market.

Same with Jackson, from what I've read, the Rams aren't really keen on tagging him. If either of these guys hits the market, you pay them whatever the **** it takes to get them here, end of conversation. We're going to ruin Mahomes if we keep pulling this shit, enough is enough.

The only way it's not shocking is cap space. The Ravens don't have much. They can clear space to do it though.

The Rams absolutely have the space.

I'm sure both prefer to get deals done, teams always prefer that to a tag. I'm sure they'll try to avoid that.

Teams don't tend to let left tackles hit the market. They are hard to get and that well has been pretty dry for a while. The last couple of drafts have helped a bit but it's still difficult to get a good one.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by milkshock

Veach let Brown walk with nothing lined up, so it is possible they are allowed to test the market.

He tagged Brown the first year he was a FA.

[Sassy Squatch]

Veach let Brown walk because his agent was a ****ing reerun that failed to do any due diligence and had no feel for what his actual market was. Veach had by far the best offer on the table for him and he kept scoffing and asking for more. At a certain point you just throw your hands up and pivot.

[RunKC]

Oh FFS people. Anyone saying shit about OBJ is a goddamn fool. The only thing worse than Wanya or Kingsley or Humphries is getting the same result from a loser you paid big money to.

OBJ sucks and other teams know it. He would’ve have gotten his ass whipped by Nolan Smith

Best part of Hard Knocks, easily, was the strip-sack by #Steelers OLB Nick Herbig, and the reaction from Mike Tomlin.

They talked about Herbig needing to beat Orlando Brown Jr. all week. In a big spot, Herbig did. And Tomlin loved it. pic.twitter.com/4NUyqMMLxh

— Josh Carney (@ByJoshCarney) December 4, 2024

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

We have a ton of money in the OL but the player's suck. Veach has failed in this area and now we have hardly any money and still for the 7th year in a row need an LT.

That sucks and there is no good answer.

The Chiefs are currently paying 3 players on the OL.

Joe Thuney - excellent and worth the money. Got exposed and worked last night (there's a reason he is not a LT and it showed in the way he got dominated by a long DE).

Creed Humphrey - excellent and worth the money. Best C in football.

Jawan Taylor - had some struggles last night but was good in pass protection during the Super Bowl run last year and in the run to the Super Bowl this year.

The other two spots have been cheap bandaids.

There's space between "Veach sucks" and "dang it, that didn't quite work out." Which is where we should all be living.

I have a hard time accepting "Veach failed" when the approach since Fisher went down has been to take swing after swing.

He traded a 1st for an established, younger vet and then tried to sign him long-term. Didn't work for the player, he moved on, and honestly it was for the best. (That was also an atrocious T draft, so the 1st they shipped out for him can't be squabbled over too much, especially considering the Chiefs got a pick back that was used to take a 4-year starter in Nick Bolton).

When that T walked, the Chiefs pivoted to replacing him by giving that money to the best available pass-blocking T on the market. He hasn't performed to expectations, primarily in the penalties area. Getting targeted on national TV by Cris Collinsworth put a target on his back that he hasn't shaken.