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The NFL will reportedly consider measuring first downs electronically in 2025 season
Hmmm. Is this about the Bills again?
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And none of that will change with this.
I don't see the difference. If it's measured electronically the refs can't screw it up.
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I don't see the difference. If it's measured electronically the refs can't screw it up.
You (and many others) are talking about spots. This potential rule change is about measurements.
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For instance, the technology will always know if the ball has crossed the line for a first down.

On the play where we stuffed Allen, the officials couldn't overturn the call because they couldn't SEE the ball.

Is this technology not tracking the ball?
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For instance, the technology will always know if the ball has crossed the line for a first down.

On the play where we stuffed Allen, the officials couldn't overturn the call because they couldn't SEE the ball.

Is this technology not tracking the ball?
It's tracking where the ball is sitting on the field after it has been spotted as it relates to the change gang. It has nothing to do with where the refs spot the ball before the measurement takes place.

All it's doing is removing the need for the chain gang to walk onto the field to measure whether the ball is sitting past the first down marker or not.
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It's tracking where the ball is sitting on the field after it has been spotted as it relates to the change gang. It has nothing to do with where the refs spot the ball before the measurement takes place.

All it's doing is removing the need for the chain gang to walk onto the field to measure whether the ball is sitting past the first down marker or not.
What a pointless fart

Should at least be used to challenge rulings
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What a pointless fart

Should at least be used to challenge rulings
That's basically it. It's a convenience change.

It won't change the outcome of plays like the one people are complaining about because the chip in the ball isn't tracking when the player is down. That's all on the officials, same as it ever was.

This is a big nothingburger. But I will take it because as you can see, people actually believe the NFL is addressing their grievance even though they're not.
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Honestly it feels like they've already implemented this. I don't remember the last time I saw a measurement by the chain gang. I can think of several instances where they spot the ball less than a foot from the line & don't measure. Those used to be automatic measurements. I don't think I've seen it happen once this season.
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Never seen the NFL cater to a losing team like they have the Bills. It's crazy lol.
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also, what happens if it is not aligned....like the garage door opener
At most, it would be off what... maybe 1/4" merely due to the width of the clip being forced to another link... I don't know what to say here. I know people like to call it a "game of inches" but that's at best. You have a bunch of humans eyeballing a spot, sometimes from 25 yards away. You couple that with lines across a slightly domed field (normally) that are never quite perfectly straight no matter how much they look like they are. Once you factor those things in, 1/4" hardly makes a big difference. Now ask yourself if you've ever seen a spot come within less than an inch of making the first down. I've played and watched a lot of ball and I can't say that I have. A couple/few inches? Sure. Not less than a 1/4" where I'd bring into question the traditional means of tracking a first down. You're not going to do a much better job even if you do inject technology. Some human always has to pinpoint the moment a player is down. Is it worth it to affect a handful of first downs per season? I doubt it. People eventually just have to learn that it's still a game at the end of the day and sometimes you're just going to come out on the losing end of a really close call.
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Never seen the NFL cater to a losing team like they have the Bills. It's crazy lol.
And the media and the rest of the crybabies are defending them saying that only Chiefs fans don't like the rule changes and that we're cry babies. It's BS that we are getting the label that Buffalo should be getting.
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Never seen the NFL cater to a losing team like they have the Bills. It's crazy lol.
But they aren't catering to the Bills. This change would not affect the spotting of the ball. This would not have changed the result of that 4th and 1.

People are seeing what they want to see.
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At most, it would be off what... maybe 1/4" merely due to the width of the clip being forced to another link... I don't know what to say here. I know people like to call it a "game of inches" but that's at best. You have a bunch of humans eyeballing a spot, sometimes from 25 yards away. You couple that with lines across a slightly domed field (normally) that are never quite perfectly straight no matter how much they look like they are. Once you factor those things in, 1/4" hardly makes a big difference. Now ask yourself if you've ever seen a spot come within less than an inch of making the first down. I've played and watched a lot of ball and I can't say that I have. A couple/few inches? Sure. Not less than a 1/4" where I'd bring into question the traditional means of tracking a first down. You're not going to do a much better job even if you do inject technology. Some human always has to pinpoint the moment a player is down. Is it worth it to affect a handful of first downs per season? I doubt it. People eventually just have to learn that it's still a game at the end of the day and sometimes you're just going to come out on the losing end of a really close call.
I've seen some spots that were a pimple hair away from being a first down. Or that were first downs. Not often but it happens. I think the replays and all the angles are enough. If it doesn't go your way, you should have just gotten more. Don't leave it up to a **** hair spot. They should always side with the defense if theres doubt imo.
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But they aren't catering to the Bills. This change would not affect the spotting of the ball. This would not have changed the result of that 4th and 1.

People are seeing what they want to see.
I swear, if there's been another recent thread that has made me doubt the intelligence and reading comprehension of many posters on here more than this one, I sure can't think of it.

This is, at best, a minor administrative change that might speed up the typical game by a minute or so. It has nothing to do with forward progress, knees down, touchdowns, or the Bills. It's removing the need for the chain gang to walk onto the field. That's it. Period.
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