Chiefs Playcalling is not the issue - Page 6

FringeNC · 12-15-2024, 04:22 PM

Playcalling is not the reason we averaged 4.1 yards per play. There is an elephant in the room this season and it is offensive line play (both LT and RT) and the effect it's had on Mahomes' pocket presence. We are bottom-tier offensively. Run, pass, it doesn't matter -- there are no big plays or easy throws like you see with decent to good offense. Our offense is one of the worst in the league. (If you deny that, you simply don't watch much football. Sorry.)

On the flip side, our D was spectacular today. One of the best performances I can remember.

Titty Meat · Yesterday, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by arrwheader

“Flying colors” is super star qb hobbled and possibly missing time and “flourishing” is squeaking by the chargers and on 6 turnovers scoring 22 point then LOL

I get it but I just had too

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FloridaMan88 · Yesterday, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

The passing game was worse. Hopkins, Watson and Kelce are not getting open often. Kelce is not what he was. Mahomes missing passes, OL struggling.

There’s no explosion outside of Worthy

And no explosion in the running game… none.

Ford’s 62 yard run for Cleveland yesterday is almost double the Chiefs longest from a RB for the entire season (Pacheco 34 yards).

Dunerdr · Yesterday, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Who the mother**** you talking to? I know it's not me. I let you slip the 1st time now you need to stop coming on my page talking shit and talk shit on the person whoever you are trying to. I don't give a **** who you are I never slapped any if your posts or even know what you post on but best believe now young blood if I see your name somewhere I'm slapping you like your butch ass mom slapped you as a kid because you were being a little bitch

He finna be at the GB statue with underwear over his head.

htismaqe · Yesterday, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

They've basically taken away the short passing game. There's a reason we see all the deep shots.

They don't respect the Chiefs' running game. They're jumping on all the short stuff.

Mecca · Yesterday, 11:09 AM

Honestly, do a lot of you watch other teams play?

The Chiefs don't have the best OL in the league or anything but it's also far from the worst. Reading here you'd think the Chiefs were rocking with an entire line of nothing but scrubs that shouldn't be starters.

The problem is even when the throws are there, he misses. He just doesn't look like the same guy he was just 2 years ago, all the dynamicness just isn't there. I dunno what the **** happened either, it's really weird.

wachashi · Yesterday, 11:33 AM

Morris is currently ranked as the 73rd best Tackle out of 80 on PFF. Taylor is 53/80.

Pretty clear what the problem is.

mr. tegu · Yesterday, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Honestly, do a lot of you watch other teams play?

The Chiefs don't have the best OL in the league or anything but it's also far from the worst. Reading here you'd think the Chiefs were rocking with an entire line of nothing but scrubs that shouldn't be starters.

The problem is even when the throws are there, he misses. He just doesn't look like the same guy he was just 2 years ago, all the dynamicness just isn't there. I dunno what the **** happened either, it's really weird.

Well you see, two drives prior to him missing a wide open pass he was pressured a few times and sacked so how can expect him to complete a simple pass from a clean pocket later in the game?

Mecca · Yesterday, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Well you see, two drives prior to him missing a wide open pass he was pressured a few times and sacked so how can expect him to complete a simple pass from a clean pocket later in the game?

Some of the stuff people say, you'd think he was the most mentally fragile person that ever existed. By God did you see that sack he took? it means he'll be unable to properly throw for the next 25 minutes.

wachashi · Yesterday, 12:06 PM

Yeah, he's not just being pressured a few times. He leads the league in QB pressures and hits, and is top three in sacks and hurries.

We signed Humphries for a reason. Our Tackle play has sucked ass.

dlphg9 · Yesterday, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Honestly, do a lot of you watch other teams play?

The Chiefs don't have the best OL in the league or anything but it's also far from the worst. Reading here you'd think the Chiefs were rocking with an entire line of nothing but scrubs that shouldn't be starters.

The problem is even when the throws are there, he misses. He just doesn't look like the same guy he was just 2 years ago, all the dynamicness just isn't there. I dunno what the **** happened either, it's really weird.

Yeah I don't get this OL is ruining everything. Over his career Joe Burrow's 17 game average is 47 for sacks. He's been sacked 181 times in 66 games. He's been sacked 29 times in 7 playoff games. He isn't out there seeing ghosts. He has a bottom 5 OL and looks like an MVP.

People will point to his weapons, but who cares, because he doesn't get much time to throw.

dlphg9 · Yesterday, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wachashi

Yeah, he's not just being pressured a few times. He leads the league in QB pressures and hits, and is top three in sacks and hurries.

We signed Humphries for a reason. Our Tackle play has sucked ass.

ESPN has the OL as the 2nd best pass blocking OL in the league.

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These numbers are what he's responsible for. Not the OL.

jerryaldini · Yesterday, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wachashi

Yeah, he's not just being pressured a few times. He leads the league in QB pressures and hits, and is top three in sacks and hurries.

We signed Humphries for a reason. Our Tackle play has sucked ass.

If you look at the OL% overall it's pretty average because the interior is so good, and RT is below average but adequate. They are addressing LT which has been abysmal. They are adding a quick open receiver. I think they're fine if they wind up needing to try roll with Thuney.

Despite all these concerns they've been a league average scoring offense with a top four defense that's good enough to carry them to a 13-1 record. We are just so spoiled, and every team has a weakness somewhere.

Mecca · Yesterday, 12:54 PM

PFF gave Mahomes a 43 yesterday, he's only had 2 or 3 games worse than that his entire career.

Coochie liquor · Yesterday, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I thought Tuney played damn good at LT today.

He allowed 10 blindside pressures in 38 drop backs.

dlphg9 · Yesterday, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini

If you look at the OL% overall it's pretty average because the interior is so good, and RT is below average but adequate. They are addressing LT which has been abysmal. They are adding a quick open receiver. I think they're fine if they wind up needing to try roll with Thuney.

Despite all these concerns they've been a league average scoring offense with a top four defense that's good enough to carry them to a 13-1 record. We are just so spoiled, and every team has a weakness somewhere.

This shows QB as being responsible for 23.3% of his pressures. It's the 2nd highest in the league.

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FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-353986	Playcalling is not the issue Playcalling is not the reason we averaged 4.1 yards per play. There is an elephant in the room this season and it is offensive line play (both LT and RT) and the effect it's had on Mahomes' pocket presence. We are bottom-tier offensively. Run, pass, it doesn't matter -- there are no big plays or easy throws like you see with decent to good offense. Our offense is one of the worst in the league. (If you deny that, you simply don't watch much football. Sorry.) On the flip side, our D was spectacular today. One of the best performances I can remember.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $427050	Honestly, do a lot of you watch other teams play? The Chiefs don't have the best OL in the league or anything but it's also far from the worst. Reading here you'd think the Chiefs were rocking with an entire line of nothing but scrubs that shouldn't be starters. The problem is even when the throws are there, he misses. He just doesn't look like the same guy he was just 2 years ago, all the dynamicness just isn't there. I dunno what the **** happened either, it's really weird.
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wachashi Veteran Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $7020400	Morris is currently ranked as the 73rd best Tackle out of 80 on PFF. Taylor is 53/80. Pretty clear what the problem is.
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wachashi Veteran Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $7020400	Yeah, he's not just being pressured a few times. He leads the league in QB pressures and hits, and is top three in sacks and hurries. We signed Humphries for a reason. Our Tackle play has sucked ass.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $427050	PFF gave Mahomes a 43 yesterday, he's only had 2 or 3 games worse than that his entire career.
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