Chiefs Poll: What should/will Veach do with the WR group? - Page 6

Dante84 · 03-15-2023, 06:45 PM

[Poll coming soon]

Right now we have MVS, Toney, Moore and... camp fodder. So what happens this offseason?

Molitoth · 03-16-2023, 02:32 PM

I hate the idea of trading for older WR's but Dhop is just so damned good that I think it's worth a shot. I think of Randy Moss going from the Raiders to the Patriots.

I'd also be willing to take Theilen for a year....

As we've seen with players like Moore, and even Jamar Chase... it's hard to come into the NFL and be ready to go as a WR, especially in Reids offense. So relying on another rookie seems a little risky.

Graystoke · 03-16-2023, 02:45 PM

Count me in for DHop.

Dante84 · 03-16-2023, 03:31 PM

We are almost certainly going to sign *someone* before the draft.

Campbell and Slayton are off the board. Chark is visiting the Panthers tomorrow.

- OBJ?
- Trade for Hopkins?
- Trade for Brandin Cooks?
- Adam Thielen?
- Mecole Hardman?
- Mack Hollins?
- Jarvis Landry?
- Nelson Agholor?

jerryaldini · 03-16-2023, 03:36 PM

Dhop has pulled ahead in the poll! Schefter should be reporting this.

Megatron96 · 03-16-2023, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

We are almost certainly going to sign *someone* before the draft.

Campbell and Slayton are off the board. Chark is visiting the Panthers tomorrow.

- OBJ?
- Trade for Hopkins?
- Trade for Brandin Cooks?
- Adam Thielen?
- Mecole Hardman?
- Mack Hollins?
- Jarvis Landry?
- Nelson Agholor?

Maybe Hollins. Possession receiver, probably give us basically what JuJu brought, maybe a bit more burst. Everything else is probably a wash. But he's significantly younger than Thielen, and might, probably, is more versatile at this point.

kccrow · 03-16-2023, 04:21 PM

Sign Jalen Guyton (6'1" 212, 4.39). Speed guy that has a couple of decent years of production in the NFL in 2020 and 2021 with the Chargers.

Sign Marquez Callaway (6'2" 205, 4.55). Possession type that runs great routes and makes tough catches away from his frame with good production in 2021 with the Saints.

Draft Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama (5'9" 199, 4.36). Speed and agility jack of all trades to fill a hybrid Slot/McKinnon role.

Profit.

The core competition to whittle to 6:
K. Toney
M. Valdes-Scantling
S. Moore
J. Gibbs
J. Guyton
M. Callaway
J. Ross
I. Smith-Marsette

Stryker · 03-16-2023, 07:50 PM

Stay as far away from OBJ and DeHOP as you can! These are brands in the likes of A.J. Green, Julio Jones and the likes. Move forward with youth and draft the likes of Mingo, Mims or Perry. Keep the youth movement going!

Iconic · 03-16-2023, 11:12 PM

One of Chark/Thielen/Pringle + Day 2 or better pick at WR should do it tbh.

I'd be okay with bringing back Hardman but I think a stupid team will price us out of the running.

Chief Pagan · 03-16-2023, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryaldini

Dhop has pulled ahead in the poll! Schefter should be reporting this.

Dhop has pulled ahead.

It means only one thing.

Vurt Beach curve ball incoming!

1COOLDOG · 03-17-2023, 02:05 AM

In the unforgettable words of BTO:
"Let It Ride"

Couch-Potato · 03-17-2023, 02:57 AM

Hmmm... Why not DJ Chark?

6-4, 205 lbs & Fast

26 yrs old

Made $6m last year and needs a career boost similar to JuJu.

Could probably produce similarly to JuJu.

FloridaMan88 · 03-17-2023, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker

Stay as far away from OBJ and DeHOP as you can! These are brands in the likes of A.J. Green, Julio Jones and the likes. Move forward with youth and draft the likes of Mingo, Mims or Perry. Keep the youth movement going!

Hopkins is 30 years old… not ancient.

And while Veach emphasizes getting younger players, he’s also had recent success with signing older veterans… especially at DE.

He can do the same now at WR.

Rainbarrel · 03-17-2023, 04:46 AM

In theory is never wrong!

CupidStunt · 03-17-2023, 05:59 AM

Some people are so far off on Hopkins it's insane. Just like Jawaan Taylor. It can only be where those guys play, and how little attention people are apparently paying.

Last year he paced for 120 catches and 1350 yards with absolute gutter trash QB play.

Yes, he's older and no, we shouldn't trade a fortune for him, but that's not gonna happen. For the right price, for a couple years, he'd absolutely be a legit go-to WR for Pat.

Chances are we won't get him, and I won't lose any sleep - there are other options I like and Pat's gonna make whatever he has work. But if we do get him it'll be a damn exciting prospect.

Couch-Potato · 03-17-2023, 09:32 AM

I'd say...

Option 1: DJ Chark under $10m
Option 2: OBJ under $15m
Option 3: Hopkins Trade = Pick + Absorb his $20m Contact

I like all three options, can't miss! Let's go!

View Poll Results: What will/should Veach do with the WR position group?
Do we trade for Hopkins and commit cap + picks to a 31 year old?	33	27.27%
Do we overpay for a weird egomaniac (talented freak) coming off a rehab year with OBJ?	6	4.96%
Do we have to overpay to get Mecole to return, since there are likely other bidders?	8	6.61%
Do we sign an elderly 32 year old Adam Thielen?	8	6.61%
Do we trade for an unnamed player that could be had?	8	6.61%
Do we sign an unnamed WR FA, former Chief or otherwise? (Please specifcy)	12	9.92%
Do we let it ride, and use the draft to fill the remaining WR spots?	46	38.02%
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Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $254969	I hate the idea of trading for older WR's but Dhop is just so damned good that I think it's worth a shot. I think of Randy Moss going from the Raiders to the Patriots. I'd also be willing to take Theilen for a year.... As we've seen with players like Moore, and even Jamar Chase... it's hard to come into the NFL and be ready to go as a WR, especially in Reids offense. So relying on another rookie seems a little risky. Last edited by Molitoth; 03-16-2023 at 02:38 PM..
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Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-1838004 VARSITY	We are almost certainly going to sign someone before the draft. Campbell and Slayton are off the board. Chark is visiting the Panthers tomorrow. - OBJ? - Trade for Hopkins? - Trade for Brandin Cooks? - Adam Thielen? - Mecole Hardman? - Mack Hollins? - Jarvis Landry? - Nelson Agholor? __________________ ..
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03-16-2023, 03:36 PM	#79
jerryaldini MVP Join Date: Dec 2018 Casino cash: $2630400	Dhop has pulled ahead in the poll! Schefter should be reporting this.
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kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1060000	Sign Jalen Guyton (6'1" 212, 4.39). Speed guy that has a couple of decent years of production in the NFL in 2020 and 2021 with the Chargers. Sign Marquez Callaway (6'2" 205, 4.55). Possession type that runs great routes and makes tough catches away from his frame with good production in 2021 with the Saints. Draft Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama (5'9" 199, 4.36). Speed and agility jack of all trades to fill a hybrid Slot/McKinnon role. Profit. The core competition to whittle to 6: K. Toney M. Valdes-Scantling S. Moore J. Gibbs J. Guyton M. Callaway J. Ross I. Smith-Marsette
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03-16-2023, 07:50 PM	#82
Stryker Super Bowl LVIII Champions! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Casino cash: $-255364	Stay as far away from OBJ and DeHOP as you can! These are brands in the likes of A.J. Green, Julio Jones and the likes. Move forward with youth and draft the likes of Mingo, Mims or Perry. Keep the youth movement going! __________________ Super Bowl LVIII Champions!
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03-16-2023, 11:12 PM	#83
Iconic It's just a ride. Join Date: Dec 2010 Casino cash: $1740360	One of Chark/Thielen/Pringle + Day 2 or better pick at WR should do it tbh. I'd be okay with bringing back Hardman but I think a stupid team will price us out of the running. __________________ 12·12·11 回 RIP Turd Haley
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03-17-2023, 02:05 AM	#85
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03-17-2023, 02:57 AM	#86
Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $283065	Hmmm... Why not DJ Chark? 6-4, 205 lbs & Fast 26 yrs old Made $6m last year and needs a career boost similar to JuJu. Could probably produce similarly to JuJu.
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03-17-2023, 04:46 AM	#88
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03-17-2023, 05:59 AM	#89
CupidStunt offense > defense Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $-666668	Some people are so far off on Hopkins it's insane. Just like Jawaan Taylor. It can only be where those guys play, and how little attention people are apparently paying. Last year he paced for 120 catches and 1350 yards with absolute gutter trash QB play. Yes, he's older and no, we shouldn't trade a fortune for him, but that's not gonna happen. For the right price, for a couple years, he'd absolutely be a legit go-to WR for Pat. Chances are we won't get him, and I won't lose any sleep - there are other options I like and Pat's gonna make whatever he has work. But if we do get him it'll be a damn exciting prospect.
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03-17-2023, 09:32 AM	#90
Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $283065	I'd say... Option 1: DJ Chark under $10m Option 2: OBJ under $15m Option 3: Hopkins Trade = Pick + Absorb his $20m Contact I like all three options, can't miss! Let's go!
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