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Old 02-04-2022, 03:51 PM  
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Old 11-26-2024, 03:22 PM   #76
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He used to get targeted on a lot of deep balls where low catch rate is common. Chiefs don't do that anymore.


lol, he was targeted twice on Sunday, and dropped one from about 10 yds out that literally hit him in the tits. Look, I like him, for what he is. But what he is, and what he’ll always be is a ST player that Andy promoted to WR. Which I don’t necessarily have a problem with, except he’s taking WR1 snaps like he’s Justin Jefferson. That’s just dumb.
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Old 11-26-2024, 03:29 PM   #77
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lol, he was targeted twice on Sunday, and dropped one from about 10 yds out that literally hit him in the tits. Look, I like him, for what he is. But what he is, and what he’ll always be is a ST player that Andy promoted to WR. Which I don’t necessarily have a problem with, except he’s taking WR1 snaps like he’s Justin Jefferson. That’s just dumb.
I don't disagree with you that Watson is a WR4 at best, but I just wouldn't put too much stock in snap count. Especially in the regular season.
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Old 11-26-2024, 05:10 PM   #78
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Nuk played just 27 of a possible 68 offensive snaps. I doubt we were even n danger of overworking him.

Mecole, if I read it right, played less than 10% of offensive snaps.
If Nuk plays more than 60% of the snaps as a Chief and the Chiefs reach the SB, that 5th we traded turns into a 4th.

Nuk's snaps in the meat of our easiest stretch will undoubtedly be limited and saved for when the going gets tougher not just to save his aging legs for the playoffs but to avoid escalating that draft pick.

Andy has never trusted Hardman to play outside so he isn't going to get the bulk of anything opposite Worthy.

Ross hasn't really ever done shit to prove he's better than Watson, though the fan in me wants to see more of him to know.
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Old 11-26-2024, 06:18 PM   #79
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If Nuk plays more than 60% of the snaps as a Chief and the Chiefs reach the SB, that 5th we traded turns into a 4th.

Nuk's snaps in the meat of our easiest stretch will undoubtedly be limited and saved for when the going gets tougher not just to save his aging legs for the playoffs but to avoid escalating that draft pick.

Andy has never trusted Hardman to play outside so he isn't going to get the bulk of anything opposite Worthy.

Ross hasn't really ever done shit to prove he's better than Watson, though the fan in me wants to see more of him to know.

And what I’ve been saying is that it’s stupid to limit Nuk’s snaps because of a potential 4th rd draft pick. If he’s gassed, or nursing an injury, or hasn’t absorbed enough of the playbook, fine. But over a possible 4th rd pick? That’s idiotic.


And Mecole is a better WR than JWat. There’s really no comparison. Not putting the best players on the field is dumb.
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And what I’ve been saying is that it’s stupid to limit Nuk’s snaps because of a potential 4th rd draft pick. If he’s gassed, or nursing an injury, or hasn’t absorbed enough of the playbook, fine. But over a possible 4th rd pick? That’s idiotic.


And Mecole is a better WR than JWat. There’s really no comparison. Not putting the best players on the field is dumb.
I don't disagree with you, it just seems this is the strategy they are employing
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And Mecole is a better WR than JWat. There’s really no comparison. Not putting the best players on the field is dumb.
They do completely different things.

Last year Watson mossed someone in the middle of the field on third and long in Minnesota. The play led to a touchdown.

Hardman can't do that, Watson can't run jet sweeps.

He's a good complementary player. Some of you jackals treat him like Skyy Moore.
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And Mecole is a better WR than JWat. There’s really no comparison. Not putting the best players on the field is dumb.
Mecole has the ability to be a better WR than Watson but he makes bonehead plays at times.

Watson is a good receiver and has Mahomes trust...that is all I really need to know. ( said in my best Baron Von Rasche voice)
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Old 11-26-2024, 07:24 PM   #83
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If Nuk plays more than 60% of the snaps as a Chief and the Chiefs reach the SB, that 5th we traded turns into a 4th.

Nuk's snaps in the meat of our easiest stretch will undoubtedly be limited and saved for when the going gets tougher not just to save his aging legs for the playoffs but to avoid escalating that draft pick.

Andy has never trusted Hardman to play outside so he isn't going to get the bulk of anything opposite Worthy.

Ross hasn't really ever done shit to prove he's better than Watson, though the fan in me wants to see more of him to know.
If they are limiting DHop's snaps for the difference between a late 4th and a late 5th, that's a problem.
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If they are limiting DHop's snaps for the difference between a late 4th and a late 5th, that's a problem.
I'd agree. We don't need to be scummy over a 4th vs a 5th. Just let D-Hop get those reps with Mahomes.
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If they are limiting DHop's snaps for the difference between a late 4th and a late 5th, that's a problem.
It wouldn't stun me.
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And what I’ve been saying is that it’s stupid to limit Nuk’s snaps because of a potential 4th rd draft pick. If he’s gassed, or nursing an injury, or hasn’t absorbed enough of the playbook, fine. But over a possible 4th rd pick? That’s idiotic.


And Mecole is a better WR than JWat. There’s really no comparison. Not putting the best players on the field is dumb.
Agree with you that the draft pick should not play a factor, (given that a 3peat is on the line I don’t believe it is) but age/load management/ familiarity with the playbook and return of Juju all might be a consideration. I expect his snap count to increase.

Hardman is faster and quicker than Watson, but not an apples to apples comparison. Very different roles. Hardman isn’t going to last taking 60 percent of snaps plus punts, and of not much use in the run game.
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Watson is probably the least controversial player on the team.

He does his job, and he does it competently.
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If they are limiting DHop's snaps for the difference between a late 4th and a late 5th, that's a problem.
I highly doubt that’s the case. However I wouldn’t be surprised if Veach knew where to steer the negotiations based on past personnel usage by Andy. The Chiefs roll out a lot of different packages so he may have bet on that trend.
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Mecole has the ability to be a better WR than Watson but he makes bonehead plays at times.

Watson is a good receiver and has Mahomes trust...that is all I really need to know. ( said in my best Baron Von Rasche voice)
What evidence is their that Mahomes trusts Watson more than any other receiver? I don't wanna hear anything he said, because Mahomes is always gonna say the right thing. He's played in 63% (484 snaps) of the snaps on offense and has 22 targets in 11 games. 2 targets a game for the guy with the most snaps among our WRs is pretty shitty. He has 0 TDs this year and only 10 first down catches.

He does trust DeAndre Hopkins and that's pretty evident by the stats. Hopkins has been here for 5 total weeks and has played in 177 snaps, but has 27 targets, 3 TDs, 16 first downs, and 235 receiving yards. Watson has over 3 times as many offensive snaps as Hopkins and Hopkins has him beat in every single category.

Hell id say Worthy has more trust than Watson and he's a rookie. Worthy has exactly as much playing time as Watson and has over double the amount of targets, more yards, more TDs, and more 1st downs.

Patrick Mahomes knows what Watson is. Watson is a good 4th/5th option, but he should never be playing more than everyone else. He's kinda like Dan Sorenson with less big plays and everyone really started hating Dan Sorenson when he was starting over a guy that was clearly a lot better. I'm not sure the hard on people have for Justin Watson. He is such an under achiever that people are posting a video of a block he made, because it's his biggest highlight of the entire season.
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