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Old 04-09-2017, 08:57 AM  
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Okay, so WHAT exactly is so goddamn great about the 2018 QB class?
I see a loooooot of question marks here. A bunch of guys who would be 3rd or 4th rounders in THIS draft class if they declared this year. A bunch of these dudes are so young they might not even declare for the draft. And finally, we got a bunch of spread QBs who.... [gasp!]... need time to acclimate to an NFL pro style offense and develop the footwork and timing of taking snaps under center.

I see Sam Darnold. That's great. There's your #1 overall. IF HE ****ING DECLARES, THAT IS. I see Josh Rosen, who looked good in 2015 but could wind up as another Christian Hackenburg who never puts it all together. And I see a bunch of dried cum with question marks, JUST LIKE THIS QB DRAFT CLASS.

Here's how Walter Football has them ranked:

1. Sam Darnold, USC
2. Josh Rosen, UCLA
3. Luke Falk, Washington State
4. Josh Allen, Wyoming
5. Jarrett Stidham, Auburn
6. Nick Fitzgerald, Mississippi State
7. Chase Litton, Marshall
8. Riley Ferguson, Memphis

COULD this be an awesome and deep draft class for QBs? Yes, absoutely. No question about it. But guess what. There's an equal chance that this QB class flames out and looks just as bad as the 2013 class, particularly if Sam Darnold doesn't declare.

People who bitch about the 2017 class don't ****ing get it. They think if there's no true top end QB, that means they all suck. What do the Chiefs ****ing care about the quality of the top guys in a given QB draft class? We're not going to be in a position to draft them!

Again, let me say this slowly, so the reeruns and assholes can hear me:

In ANY GIVEN DRAFT CLASS, the top QB prospects with the best resumes and attributes are irrelevant to the QB draft needs of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have zero shot at picking any of them. The worst teams with the biggest QB needs will draft all of these players before Dorsey can even begin to pick up the goddamn phone to call and move up.

Tell me what we gain from NOT drafting a QB in 2017 so we can draft Josh Allen, Jarrett Stidham, or Chase ****ing Litton in 2018, a FULL YEAR LONGER where Alex Smith is the only ****ing thing we have at QB.
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Old 04-09-2017, 04:51 PM   #76
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You never really know though. Nobody thought Prescott was in Goff and Wentz league, but he's tirned out much better so far.
Actually just based on the history of air raid QBs and goddamn Red Raiders in the NFL, I think I can say we should ****ing pass.
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Old 04-09-2017, 04:52 PM   #77
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You never really know though. Nobody thought Prescott was in Goff and Wentz league, but he's tirned out much better so far.
To be fair, Prescott landed in a great situation with that Oline and Elliot. Not to take away from his talent as he displayed veteran-like decision making and command of the offense. But his surrounding cast definitely made his college-to-pro transition easier than Wentz and especially Goff.
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Old 04-09-2017, 05:07 PM   #78
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And then 1/4 guys doesn't declare while NYJ, Jags and 49ers take the other 3 amd we're stuck with our dick in our hand.
Maybe Dorsey is baiting those teams into taking qb's??
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Old 04-09-2017, 05:16 PM   #79
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Actually just based on the history of air raid QBs and goddamn Red Raiders in the NFL, I think I can say we should ****ing pass.
Based on the history of Tedford QBs and Cal, the Pack should never have selected Aaron Rodgers.
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Quarterbacks aren't going 1-2-3 in 2018. That rarely happens.

All you've sacrificed is a player we aren't in desperate need of in 2017.

What do you have to lose? Just get in position for the best QB class in years. You have nothing to lose. And everything to gain.

You're sacrificing the potential for a stud in this deep draft class so you can get picks next year and pay an arm and a leg for a prospect that might not even be that much better than a guy we could just take right now in 2017?
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Old 04-09-2017, 05:38 PM   #81
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a prospect that might not even be that much better than a guy we could just take right now
Bullshit. Total bullshit. You are blinded by your desperation.
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Actually just based on the history of air raid QBs and goddamn Red Raiders in the NFL, I think I can say we should ****ing pass.
USC, Washington State and Wyoming have never had a QB worth a shit in the NFL.

Guess we should pass on the 2018 QB class!
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Old 04-09-2017, 05:51 PM   #83
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Actually just based on the history of air raid QBs and goddamn Red Raiders in the NFL, I think I can say we should ****ing pass.
What do you think the chiefs should do about the qb position?

Its apparent that Alex Smith isn't the future. How and when do we pull the trigger on a new one?

I for one think there are a couple worthy successors in this draft, be it day one guys or day two.

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USC, Washington State and Wyoming have never had a QB worth a shit in the NFL.

Guess we should pass on the 2018 QB class!
Drew Bledsoe and Mark Rypien?
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USC, Washington State and Wyoming have never had a QB worth a shit in the NFL.

Guess we should pass on the 2018 QB class!
Sorry, but Carson Palmer is absolutely worth a shit.

If we drafted the next Carson Palmer I'd be very happy.

And what Gloucester said about Bledsoe stands.
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What do you think the chiefs should do about the qb position?
Trade up in 2018 for Darnold, Rosen, Falk or Rudolph.

And I would bet at least one of those guys falls outside the top 10.
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Bullshit. Total bullshit. You are blinded by your desperation.
Mitch Trubisky played like the most promising QB in all of college football. The reason why he's going down is the small sample size.

How is that any different than Sam Darnold only having a year and suddenly being a better prospect than Jameis Winston?

Also, are you saying you're not going to like our 1st round pick if Dorsey ends up pulling the trigger?
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There's 0% chance of that happening though.

We're looking at another Geno this year if we reach.
You don't know that.
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Dorsey will figure it out.
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