Cardinals ***Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread part II*** - Page 6

**BigRedChief** · 06:41 PM

Original thread was getting to large for the board

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014 Central Division title and NLCS series win (so far)

This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.

Only 1 losing season since 2000.

Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.

Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.

Made the NLCS 8 times

Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.

60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 08-08-2014, 05:22 PM

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Man you guys are hot. 23-10 over the last 33 games? Big night tonight for you guys bringing back all the old timers for your 60th anniversary. But, we have not lost a game at Camden yards, evah!

See we just cant score right now.

Pepe Silvia · 08-08-2014, 05:41 PM

**** You Masterson. Get this Cleveland trash out of here. I was pissed when we traded for him.

**BigRedChief** · 08-08-2014, 06:49 PM

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**** You Masterson. Get this Cleveland trash out of here. I was pissed when we traded for him.

Martinez needed to work on his change up and breaking ball. As soon as he gets those pitches going, Masterson will go to the bullpen. He will be useful in the playoffs. A great change of pace.

he will be a great guy to bring in after Lynn/Miller to pitch a couple of innings, go through the line up once. Then bring the power pitchers back in to close it out.

Besides, some team will sign him in the off season and we will get a draft pick out of him.

Miles · 08-08-2014, 07:39 PM

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Martinez needed to work on his change up and breaking ball. As soon as he gets those pitches going, Masterson will go to the bullpen. He will be useful in the playoffs. A great change of pace.

he will be a great guy to bring in after Lynn/Miller to pitch a couple of innings, go through the line up once. Then bring the power pitchers back in to close it out.

Besides, some team will sign him in the off season and we will get a draft pick out of him.

Pretty sure they changed it so that players traded during the year can't have a pick tied to them.

**BigRedChief** · 08-08-2014, 08:17 PM

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Pretty sure they changed it so that players traded during the year can't have a pick tied to them.

All you have to do is give them a qualifying offer. Then you get the pick. It's a CBA formula that decides what amount is the "qualifying" offer.

I was okay with the trade. It was a gamble but a small one. I don't think anyone thought he was going to be better than a Westbrook even in a best case scenario.

We have Tilson/Grichek/Piscotty/Taveras in front of Ramsey. He wasn't even going to be called up for years. We still have a corner logjam.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 08-08-2014, 08:18 PM

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All you have to do is give them a qualifying offer. Then you get the pick. It's a CBA formula that decides what amount is the "qualifying" offer.

I was okay with the trade. It was a gamble but a small one. I don't think anyone thought he was going to be better than a Westbrook even in a best case scenario.

We have Tilson/Grichek/Piscotty/Taveras in front of Ramsey. He wasn't even going to be called up for years. We still have a corner logjam.

Players traded mid-season cant get a QO.

**BigRedChief** · 08-08-2014, 08:22 PM

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Players traded mid-season cant get a QO.

Well that sucks.

Jewish Rabbi · 08-08-2014, 09:41 PM

We'd be asinine to make a qualifying offer to Masterson. He'll take the money and laugh all the way to the bank. No one wants a washed up starter with a 5+ ERA.

Miles · 08-08-2014, 09:56 PM

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We'd be asinine to make a qualifying offer to Masterson. He'll take the money and laugh all the way to the bank. No one wants a washed up starter with a 5+ ERA.

Not sure he is completely washed up that can't bounce back after this season but does look like damaged goods at the moment. At least not his shoulder that is bad.

But yeah as you said wouldn't get a qualifying offer anyway.

**BigRedChief** · 08-08-2014, 10:22 PM

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We'd be asinine to make a qualifying offer to Masterson. He'll take the money and laugh all the way to the bank. No one wants a washed up starter with a 5+ ERA.

I thought qualifying offers were based on stats/skill level? His stats suck. I was thinking a qualifying offer would be small potatoes.

But anyway, we can't get a draft pick for the guy in the off season.

Jewish Rabbi · 08-08-2014, 10:45 PM

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I thought qualifying offers were based on stats/skill level? His stats suck. I was thinking a qualifying offer would be small potatoes.

But anyway, we can't get a draft pick for the guy in the off season.

The qualifying offer is the average of the top 125 salaries of the season just finished. So same for everyone, no matter how good or bad they are.

**BigRedChief** · 08-08-2014, 10:53 PM

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The qualifying offer is the average of the top 125 salaries of the season just finished. So same for everyone, no matter how good or bad they are.

Welllll nlm that. He's damaged goods? But, it looks like Craig is too and we got out from under that contract and .240 average.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 08-09-2014, 10:57 AM

Ubaldo Jimenez returns today this could get ugly for Orioles.

**BigRedChief** · 08-10-2014, 05:30 PM

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Ubaldo Jimenez returns today this could get ugly for Orioles.

You guys looked pretty good, World Series calibur team the first two games. Was it our pitching or you guys? You got a good record. Is this your year to make a run deep into the playoffs?

Whats with the Tom Clancy name on the uniform?

The stadium looked half full today. You guys are having a good year, do you not sell out the stadium?

Marcellus · 08-10-2014, 08:26 PM

Lance Lynn may be the most underrated pitcher in Cardinals Nation and in baseball in general.

For good reason I guess but damn he is turning it around. He has always won games but now he seems to be holding the mental part of it together.

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