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Old 08-24-2007, 08:49 AM  
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I have pretty much always been in the Croyle camp. I liked the draft pick ... i loved the value of getting him the 3rd round. imo he has very good upside and potiential. He's smart,mobile,has a great arm and his intangibles are top notch. We should of played him instead of Damon Huard when Trent Green got hurt last year from my point of view.

But .........


If this offense is gonna suck this bad from top to bottom... from game plan to dropped passes then i'm not so sure i want a young QB with such good potiential destroy by the process.


We should let Huard get dropped kicks all over the field until our offense stabilizes some. How about making the change after the bye week against Green Bay? I would be all for just waiting to see what's up with McIntosh.

I'd hate to see another young QB get destroyed by martyesqueball

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Old 08-24-2007, 11:03 AM   #76
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Heh.

We will only play a QBOTF when the rest of the offense is ready to win. But then, we can't afford to start a young'un, can we? We'll need a veteran back there to maximize that great OL and WRs. Why waste all that talent with someone who doesn't know what he's doing?

Vicious circle, ain't it?
it's a convenient trap, yes....
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:03 AM   #77
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Some people are married to the idea that croyle is this young stud that we won't go with. This isn't a 6'6 250 stud drafted in the first round. This is a guy with bad knees, bad mobility, and a worse haircut.
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:12 AM   #78
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Last night's meltdown has made me realize that Carl really is a genious.

He's given Chiefs fans exactly what they want: 9-7 forever...a little bit of hope married to the least amount of risk.

And now, having not even played one regular season game, the Croyle experiment is over. KCJohnny was here last night telling us that Terrell is our best QB and that Croyle is our 4th best.

Fans peeing themselves everywhere. Flooding Carl's voicemail with frantic cries for Huard and 9-7..."Please, Carl!! Huard...9-7...save us!."

Carl understands that in the deepest part of Chief Fan's heart there is a mortal fear of risk, of the unknown. We don't really deserve our own QB, that's something other Franchises get.

So adios Brodie. You had more than enough time in your 50 preseason snaps for us to pass judgment on you and find you wanting. But take heart! You got 49 more snaps more than any other "QBOTF" in Chiefs history.

And now we will wait until we have a great OL...whenever the **** that is. And then, with a great OL we will draft another QB - but only if we have great WRs!...we must have a great OL and great WRs. And in the meantime we have Huard. Next year we can sign another Vet backup QB a la Grbac, a la Green, a la Gannon, a la Huard. They will pacify us with the warm and familiar 9-7 until the perfect moment - that moment when everyone is great and talented and healthy, and that moment will be........

Wow! that was brilliant! Outstanding....
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:24 AM   #79
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Nobody runs for his life better than Casey Printers. It's a shame this dude fumbles so much. KC's garbage offensive line is not going to do Huard's wagon wheels any good. Brodie Croyle is obviously not ready to win football games... his receivers dont help him much either. I think all 3 of these guys will lead KC to a losing record. I was pulling for Croyle.. and Huard is probably best choice.. but I wanna see Printers.
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:57 AM   #80
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Blondes are airheads and Jennifer is Blonde

Jennifer must be an airhead

I wonder how many Blondes are airheads?

Jennifer is a Blonde

Jennifer may or may not be an airhead
I'm done fighting about it, but your analysis is flawed.

You wouldn't be wondering HOW MANY blondes are airheads if you hadn't already MADE THE ASSUMPTION that at least SOME are.

There is NO WAY to wonder how many Chiefs fans aren't smart enough and simultaneously say that NO fans aren't smart enough.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:01 PM   #81
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It's come down to Herm and Carl. Herm is gonna want to start Croyle and take the losses and bumps and bruises and Carl knows that Huard will be more fit to win more games. I don't think Carl would sacrifice having a 5 or less win season just to break in a QB. He's never done that and I don't think it will change. It will be a matter of time before Carl puts his foot down and demand Huard being the starter considering what he did last season.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:02 PM   #82
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Peyton manning would have gone 5-17 last night with our offensive line.
Croyle wasn't touched on any of his 3 interceptions so far this year.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:04 PM   #83
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Croyle wasn't touched on any of his 3 interceptions so far this year.
One he did scramble for his life, did a circus twist and then wung it down the field to that invisible WR.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:06 PM   #84
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Croyle wasn't touched on any of his 3 interceptions so far this year.
On his first INT against Cleveland he wasn't touched because he made a hell of a move to get away from pressure.

Don't be disingenuous here.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:09 PM   #85
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On his first INT against Cleveland he wasn't touched because he made a hell of a move to get away from pressure.

Don't be disingenuous here.
besides ..... while his interceptions are a problem, they aren't THE problem.

he's young ... he'll make some mistakes


the problem is the complete lack of effectiveness of the offense and whether it will hurt Croyle's development.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:12 PM   #86
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besides ..... while his interceptions are a problem, they aren't THE problem.

he's young ... he'll make some mistakes

the problem is the complete lack of effectiveness of the offense and whether it will hurt Croyle's development.
I'm am 100% serious when I think ALOT of his mistakes are coming from the fact that he's pressing too hard trying to beat out Huard...
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First off, Croyle looks pretty mobile to me. Not like Vick mobile, but he's pretty nimble. He eludes pretty well, and can throw on the run.

Second, I counted about 5 dropped passes and three throwaways. I'm talkin'-hit the guy in the hands and he dropped it-type drops. That makes the stat line ugly, but it's not like he was a wildly inaccurate 5 of 17. He should've been more like 10 of 17. And three out of bounds throws.

just sayin.
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I'm am 100% serious when I think ALOT of his mistakes are coming from the fact that he's pressing too hard trying to beat out Huard...

I tend to agree with you on this one...
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I'm am 100% serious when I think ALOT of his mistakes are coming from the fact that he's pressing too hard trying to beat out Huard...
and i guess my point is that Croyle isn't the problem at all. He will get better etc.

i more worry about the rest of the offense ... which i'm not so sure will get much better.
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and i guess my point is that Croyle isn't the problem at all. He will get better etc.

i more worry about the rest of the offense ... which i'm not so sure will get much better.
If McIntosh comes back healthy, I think he's a significant upgrade over Svitek.

That alone might be the spark to make the offense considerably better.

But it all hinges on that.
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