Stadium Watch 2024 -Jackson County Residents: How Are You Voting?

[Pablo]

Vote in this poll if you actually live in Jackson county.

We've all shared our opinions in the other thread. But who gives a shit what somebody in Platte County or Johnson County or Phoenix or NYC thinks. We're all just noise.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Pablo

I have as much of an impact of this vote as you do in Miami. I'd never live in Jackson County.

Is this your tap-out after equating the Chiefs/Royals to “crackheads outside of a gas station”?

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Is this your tap-out after equating the Chiefs/Royals to “crackheads outside of a gas station”?

I thought it was kind of funny personally. Imagining a strung out John Sherman outside of a QT trying to grab a vote or two.

And cut it with the tap-out language, that's DC dipshit stuff. I know you're active there and those are your people, but it's not how I roll.

[Womble]

There are a lot of crazy people in the DC who range from intelligent to stupid. KCChiefsFan88 is less on the crazy side than most of them but he is in his own tier when it comes to being a ****ing idiot.

If you gave him a lobotomy it would double his IQ.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Womble

There are a lot of crazy people in the DC who range from intelligent to stupid. KCChiefsFan88 is less on the crazy side than most of them but he is in his own tier when it comes to being a ****ing idiot.

If you gave him a lobotomy it would double his IQ.

So you would vote no on this ballot initiative if you lived in KC?

Even your usual dense British dumbassery should be able to see the illogical hilarity in voting no for this.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

KC Tenants are against it. That should make it an automatic yes for anyone with a brain if that organization is against something.

KCChiefsFan88 is for it. That should make it an automatic no vote for anyone with a brain if that poster is for something.

This is kinda fun!

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Pablo

I thought it was kind of funny personally. Imagining a strung out John Sherman outside of a QT trying to grab a vote or two.

And cut it with the tap-out language, that's DC dipshit stuff. I know you're active there and those are your people, but it's not how I roll.

Sounds like you are coming to the realization that your previous statements against this ballot initiative have no logical basis.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Sounds like you are coming to the realization that your previous statements against this ballot initiative have no logical basis.

Oh sure that's what's happening here.

You remind me of BEP. You guys discuss matters in a similar manner.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Oh sure that's what's happening here.

You remind me of BEP. You guys discuss matters in a similar manner.

Explain why are you against keeping the same 3/8-cent sales tax in place.

Because you hate John Sherman?

Sounds like a short-sighted dumb reason. Especially since you would be voting no to the Chiefs as well.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Pablo

If they'd just firmly stuck with the East Village site from the get-go and announced this thing six months ago; there wouldn't be a fight about this. It wouldn't be a hot topic.

Only the Royals could fumble a bag this hard, and they still might get their votes. But it's just because Jackson county voters will slap a 'yes' vote on anything they perceive makes them a 'big time city' - not because they earned those votes in an honest effort.

Some of the internal polling I have seen makes it look neck and neck I imagine the yes votes win out but in a close one.

[|Zach|]

A lot of people who live and spend a lot of time around downtown were pretty unhappy with the plan closing Oak St.

Now they come around and say they can do it without closing Oak but I have no idea how. And its them changing the entire thing a few days before the vote and after early voting folks have already cast a ballot.

It is such a mess.

It is also shitty because that east village area has been sitting waiting for this. One of the reasons there is so much open land there is because it was an open secret the Royals were going to make a home there so when they made this last second audible it really sucked because we could have done things with that area.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

Some of the internal polling I have seen makes it look neck and neck I imagine the yes votes win out but in a close one.

There's real backlash out there for pushing the Crossroads site last minute that hurt them dramatically.

The Royals would still get shit on being an awful organization, but if they had made this proposal for the East Village site (an ugly pimple that needs revitalization) it passes something like 65/35 instead of going 53/47.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

A lot of people who live and spend a lot of time around downtown were pretty unhappy with the plan closing Oak St.

Now they come around and say they can do it without closing Oak but I have no idea how. And its them changing the entire thing a few days before the vote and after early voting folks have already cast a ballot.

It is such a mess.

It is also shitty because that east village area has been sitting waiting for this. One of the reasons there is so much open land there is because it was an open secret the Royals were going to make a home there so when they made this last second audible it really sucked because we could have done things with that area.

I am team YES on the stadium vote, but I have no idea how they're going to design this thing to keep Oak St. open.

Here are scale overlays of Busch Stadium, Oriole Park, and Coors. All downtown stadiums.

The renderings you have seen will be SIGNIFICANTLY impacted by this. pic.twitter.com/qAyhW4yZ7B

— Josh Chavis (@JoshChavis65) March 28, 2024

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

A lot of people who live and spend a lot of time around downtown were pretty unhappy with the plan closing Oak St.

Now they come around and say they can do it without closing Oak but I have no idea how. And its them changing the entire thing a few days before the vote and after early voting folks have already cast a ballot.

It is such a mess.

It is also shitty because that east village area has been sitting waiting for this. One of the reasons there is so much open land there is because it was an open secret the Royals were going to make a home there so when they made this last second audible it really sucked because we could have done things with that area.

That's the biggest gripe people that work/live/play in KC have as far as I can tell.

I can sit here and blabber about the royals being long time losers with an owner that's looking to build and sell. And while that's all true, the site being forced into the Crossroads is a sticking point for more people than you'd think.

That area sucked forever and it finally gets built up to be a focal part for the city, and the big bad royals abandon plans to revitalize an eyesore just to cash in and ultimately destroy something that was built organically.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Chiefs = awesome winners that were tacked onto this at the end for support.

Royals = losers and catalyst of this entire vote and undeserving of anything.

If this vote doesn't pass it has zero to do with support for the Chiefs and says everything about the lack of support for the Royals and Sherman's delivery of this message.

If it doesn't pass it has everything to do with the Chiefs. This is a vote to basically keep a tax in place that means we extend Arrowhead for 25 years. The Chiefs aren't there for "support", they want a long term deal.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Strongside

I am team YES on the stadium vote, but I have no idea how they're going to design this thing to keep Oak St. open.

Here are scale overlays of Busch Stadium, Oriole Park, and Coors. All downtown stadiums.

The renderings you have seen will be SIGNIFICANTLY impacted by this. pic.twitter.com/qAyhW4yZ7B

— Josh Chavis (@JoshChavis65) March 28, 2024

Does keeping Oak St open change anything with the way the South Loop Park project is incorporated from your understanding?